To think the main Mumsnet demographic are out of touch politically

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Reform.are smashing the polls yet any Reform voter is despised and ridiculed on here.

I think if the left are saying that something is right, and the right are saying the same thing is left, then it is probably center/neutral. Ex: BBC

Anyway, I think a lot of MN would be surprised to know that Reform would like to bring about an end to wfh !

Given that the majority of reform supporters don’t seem to be able to articulate any of their policies, I’m not sure it’s other people who are out of touch politically. People can vote for who they want, but they should at least take the time to review what that means.

Is that the way you voted? What do you think you’ll achieve?

An end to WFH and the equality act. Ie policies that help mothers

You do realise this isn't a general election and most of the country weren’t voting yesterday.

What makes you think it’s mainly elderly people voting for reform? I found out 2 colleagues from work have stood as reform candidates. They are younger than me! (Early 40s)

You’re confusing having a negative opinion about a party and people who vote for it with a lack of political education.
I’d say the opposite - anyone who thinks that Reform will govern well or for the greater good in anyway IMHO are the politically ignorant ones.
Blaming everything on immigrants, claiming you can pay for publics services by dropping taxes, and sticking the nearest shouty white boy in charge regardless of education or ability or experience to do the job is just good old fascist behaviour.

There a lot of Mumsnet posters who deep down know they're not the best version of themselves they can be, so convince themselves that they're good people because they're not racist, and that's signified by vocally opposing Reform.

There are many reasons not to vote Reform but if it's just so you can show off you're not racist, then you're very likely:

1. Extremely privileged
2. Not terribly bright
3. A bit racist

I've voted for all 3 main political parties - Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat listed in abc order, so don't read anything into that.

I'm politically homeless right now.

There are bits of some that I like, and bits of others that I hate.

I'd find it really hard to say "I'm a Tory" or "I vote Labour" etc...

Thankfully there are no local elections in my Council area this year.

I'm happy for other areas of the Country to do the heavy lifting to see what happens when Reform or Green run a Local Authority.

I’ve seen nonstop pro Reform threads on here every day and nobody seems shy of saying that they support them. I don’t know what you mean by ‘out of touch’ - they don’t agree with you, maybe?

Sure, they don't admit to it because they are aware of the ridiculous tirade of nonsense and abuse they will get, so why bother?

You know what they do instead? They vote.

With the memories of those tirades front and centre.

Reform are doing well, but not well enough. They have taken seats, but they haven’t won a council yet. They’ve put some into NOC, but not by enough that they’ll be in a coalition. I have no doubt they’ll win some councils, but so far this isn’t the bloodbath I was expecting. In one way it’s a shame because it would be funny watching them try to lead local government, but in another it’s something of a relief that, on the whole, they won’t be.

Reform is doing very well re: seats, but it hasn't won control of any councils yet.

There is a long way to go!

Probably because they don't have any policies. None that stand up to scrutiny anyway.

So they use division. "Them and us". They yell "See how they insult us. We are with you, vote for us".

What they fail to mention is that being asked to explain policy is not an insult. It is normal political discourse.

AImportantMermaid cross post! 😀

The people voting reform are out of touch. I hope they get what they deserve. It will be like the MAGA revolt. “What do you mean this isn’t covered by the NHS anymore…?”

Sort out the Welfare bill and make work worthwhile I actually agree with you on this but not on any of the other points.

abolish business rates WTAF for everyone including large corporations? Hard disagree
stop building on green belt- disagree this is NIMBYISM we need more houses
raise the tax threshold- so there can be less money for public services disagree
sort out small boats- I give almost no shits about this issue apart from wanting to stop the human suffering and am in favour of immigration as it has been shown to be a net benefit to the U.K.
I am a working tax paying person and have been all my life. Reform don’t speak for me.

They’re unlikely to considering how dreadful they are when given anything like a real job to do. One taste of a reform councillor and most voters aren’t likely to go down that route again let alone in any vote Reform in aGE.

Mumsnet voters in general have never really grasped that many people don’t want unlimited migration of young males, don’t want hotels near them and don’t want to be told that if they are concerned then they are “far right”!!!!

@Pretfeen It was actually a deliberate spelling mistake and you have proved my point wonderfully!

For me, I think that it is quite representative of the general population.

The reason I think it feels very left-leaning and anti-reform is because:

1, statistically women, and especially younger women have shifted leftwards in the past 20 years, and are particularly very anti-reform when polled. (Men have shifted to the right, but to a lesser degree than women have shifted left)
and
2, Peer pressure and the fear of speaking against the group is more pronounced among female than male groups. So you are going to get more people on here who are right-wing but won't say it, then in more mixed forums, where the (men) don't care about saying unpopular things at all.

This is local counil elections in England anyway. Local councils do not get to decide policy of the NHS.
Laughibg at oh-so-superior posters berating how thick Refirm voters are while not really undersranding the process themselves.
We've already had thick, elderly bigots and racists. Yet no one insults RW voters on MN apparently.

I agree

I never noticed any spelling mistake, but thanks for confirming that Reform supporters are intentionally baiting, rather than, you know, talking about policy.

MN is in no way a left-leaning site. Most actual left-wing politicians (Corbyn, Polanski) get mocked, and left-wing protestors get derided if not spoken about in abusive terms.

MN is incredibly snobby, so Reform voters are the victim of that, but in terms of actual politics the demographic of this site is firmly centre-right.

I suppose that does mean it's out of touch though.