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To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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Whatdoyouthinktothis · 03/05/2026 10:37

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

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TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 14:14

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:11

I think rape is an absolutely disgusting, foul crime. We don't need to import more of them.

People and cultures and nations aren't all the same unfortunately.

Any examples of these backwards countries you mentioned?

What about women and children? How do they damage local communities?

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:17

strawberrybubblegum · 06/05/2026 13:51

And as for the sexual assaults, FOI requests found that men from Afghanistan and Eritrea had more than 20 times more sexual crime convictions per 10000 population of that nationality than Britons.

Each man we let in from one of those high-risk countries poses a far higher risk than a British man.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/10/foreigners-commit-up-to-quarter-of-sex-crimes

The data from Denmark is super clear as well. Per capita wise, non western born people commit more crime.

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:21

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 14:14

Any examples of these backwards countries you mentioned?

What about women and children? How do they damage local communities?

Afghanistan, Somalia would be 2 examples.

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:26

People often complain I wouldn't go to X, Y, Z it's not safe for women..... But then would you want the men from those places to come here?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/05/2026 14:36

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 14:29

Heartbreaking.

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:40

strawberrybubblegum · 06/05/2026 14:02

Up to you. It was widely reported at the time, and does indeed show that conviction rates are very very different for different nationalities.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and saying la-la-la doesn't change reality.

A quarter of all sexual assaults? Ypu believe that? And indeed, even the headline says ‘up to’. Which could be amything from 0% Tp 25%. And it’s ’foreign born’ not asylum seekers or refugees. I don’t think it’s me putting my fingers in my ears to be honest.

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:43

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 14:29

And I’ll add this first hand account of the experience of being a refugee. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0Yn8owbEBUCqjJsc44cKrni7yR3ESh5eaY14SxZMuJ5rec5Xu27anGwddBk1sTUvl&id=100006908703621

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 14:43

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:21

Afghanistan, Somalia would be 2 examples.

You mean to say the current regimes in those countries are backwards rather than the countries itself?

I assume you can open a history book?

And maybe read up on the effect Trump's war is having on Somalia

climbintheback · 06/05/2026 14:43

Any man who has thrown away his passport from a lorry or a dingy should NOT be free to roam our streets till thoroughly vetted - why would you go to another country and do this - ask yourself!

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:44

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:21

Afghanistan, Somalia would be 2 examples.

I’ve taught (and live near) a lot of Somalis. While the country may have its problems, the people seem fine to me.

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:45

climbintheback · 06/05/2026 14:43

Any man who has thrown away his passport from a lorry or a dingy should NOT be free to roam our streets till thoroughly vetted - why would you go to another country and do this - ask yourself!

Usually it’s because the traffickers took it to keep control.

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:54

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:44

I’ve taught (and live near) a lot of Somalis. While the country may have its problems, the people seem fine to me.

Edited

Did you not see why happened in Golders Green?

Hallowedturf · 06/05/2026 14:55

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:44

I’ve taught (and live near) a lot of Somalis. While the country may have its problems, the people seem fine to me.

Edited

Other than teaching (presumably kids), what kind of interactions do you base assessment from?

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:55

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 14:54

Did you not see why happened in Golders Green?

Yes. One Somali stabbing 3 people doesn’t mean they are all violent criminals. Unless you think Fred West existing means all white men are kidnappers and rapists.

Hallowedturf · 06/05/2026 14:55

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:45

Usually it’s because the traffickers took it to keep control.

And you know this….

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:56

Hallowedturf · 06/05/2026 14:55

Other than teaching (presumably kids), what kind of interactions do you base assessment from?

Living near. So social interactions. In their workspaces. At volunteering events. How come I need to have close personal relations to say those of Somali origin seem just like everyone else but apparently just walking past a migrant accommodation is ok to say otherwise?

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:57

Hallowedturf · 06/05/2026 14:55

And you know this….

Because it’s widely available information.

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 15:00

Hallowedturf · 06/05/2026 14:55

And you know this….

It's a well documented practice

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 15:01

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 14:29

I'm sorry that they passed away in the channel. But they put themselves in this danger. Did they not have to do this. They were leaving France.

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 15:02

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 15:01

I'm sorry that they passed away in the channel. But they put themselves in this danger. Did they not have to do this. They were leaving France.

Compassion is not really your thing is it?

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 15:08

cardibach · 06/05/2026 14:55

Yes. One Somali stabbing 3 people doesn’t mean they are all violent criminals. Unless you think Fred West existing means all white men are kidnappers and rapists.

Murder, rape and VAWG is absolutely horrendous in Somalia compared to the UK... Do you not think the men there are the reason for it?

Hallowedturf · 06/05/2026 15:11

TopPocketFind · 06/05/2026 15:00

It's a well documented practice

So, no deliberately chucking them away, then.

Right….

Hallowedturf · 06/05/2026 15:13

Two people have been arrested in connection with a BBC undercover investigation into immigration advisers helping some asylum seekers pretend to be gay to stay in the country.

The coordinated raids in east London were led by the Criminal and Financial Investigations section of the Home Office's Immigration Enforcement team.
Last month BBC News revealed how migrants whose visas are due to expire are being instructed how to obtain fake evidence, including supporting letters and photographs, to support asylum claims.
The investigation secretly filmed at an event for LGBT asylum seekers where a succession of migrants told an undercover reporter that most of those attending were not genuinely gay.
The Home Office announced an investigation in response.

cardibach · 06/05/2026 15:23

Uhdf · 06/05/2026 15:08

Murder, rape and VAWG is absolutely horrendous in Somalia compared to the UK... Do you not think the men there are the reason for it?

The men there, the situation they are living in…yes, horrendous. But not a reason to tar everyone with t(e same brush. Particularly those who chose to leave Somalia.

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