To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

You could say the same about local men.

How many hotel protestors have a criminal conviction for da or vawg? Is that compatible with 'Western society'?

The likes of Andrew Tate?

You know those figures include backlogs I assume.

I didn’t realise the family reunion visa stop was temporary only - but good imo.

Mainly a lot of settled refugees contribute to our economy and society - there is currently an ok from the government that Drs amongst asylum claimants will be able to work whilst their decision is pending - that obviously indicates they are not all unemployed or unemployable.

Fact is though that asylum seekers are going to continue to arrive - people have always migrated and particularly from war zones or inhumane living places - it’s just not going to stop and I don’t want to live in a world where it’s ok for folk to just die or suffer as they’re not a specific nationality.

I recognise we are never going to have a proper and humane global response to this and that each country therefore must consider what is necessary to keep their place workable but please don’t use the false argument that we haven’t got room - we have - in fact without migrants we’d lose the NHS and social care.

I am a member of SUTR and lately we’ve had doctors attending to see how we can liaise as they are worried re the NHS and worried that current staff are feeling so unwelcome here - this is abhorrent but also very short sighted in light of our healthcare needs too.

Net migration is down and forecast to fall further, birth rates are falling.

I am sure the UK can manage to house and provide for people seeking refuge.

You are clearly so glad Boris won that one - that’s ok, as I said earlier everyone is free to have their opinion.

But I also asked earlier how that turned out in the end for you? Personally, I’d definitely have regretted a vote for him later - did you?

Are you somehow trying to claim it wasn’t illegal but that nasty Lady Hale made the wrong call?

No need to import even more men from backwards societies

No need for all the dregs of our own society to stand outside hotels being offensive and violent either is there? Do you know that an exceptionally high number of these type of protestors have previous (and current) records relating to DV and SA.

And btw don’t be so offensively racist publicly - at the least you start to lose your own argument from the get go.

I didnt like the boriswave. But he did some other food things.

Which societies do you consider backwards?

We might be able to manage, but why should we actively do something that will harm and not benefit local communities?

You would actively deny people refuge?

And can you give examples of this harm?

Yes I would.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/05/syrian-migrant-raped-teenage-girl-beach-toilet-court-hears/

A rape is horrific regardless of who commits it.

Do you think a rape committed by a British man harms the community less?

You would for example refuse an Iranian woman refuge?

I've said this before...

There are 14.2 million women in Afghanistan. 6 million in South Sudan. 16 million in Yemen. 3 million in the Central African Republic. And those are just the very worst places to be female - not all the places where women's human rights are routinely violated... Eritrea, Bangladesh, Iran, Syria, Albania....

Tens of millions of women - uneducated, and needing financial support their whole Iives if they come to the UK. How do you think the 13.7 million UK households who actually pay more tax than they recieve in benefits - or more realistically, the just 8 million people who pay more in tax than their per-person share of state services - can possibly fund that?

We have this ridiculous situation where half the world would fulfil our conditions for claiming asylum, and the only barrier to a fully supported life in the UK is getting here. People trafficker heaven.

It's a nonsense, and it can't continue. This is not what the asylum system was designed for, and it's remit needs to fundamentally change. Afghan women can't come to the UK just because life is awful there.

If we got Asylum seekers down to Denmark levels - eg low hundereds per year, then maybe the £5 billion we spend on Asylum seekers each year - including fighting spurious legal appeals - could be used to provide more widespread help to those 10s of millions of women, in the form of the foreign aid it was intended for. That £5 billion which we currently spend on granting asylum to 70 thousand people per year could for example instead subsidise the living costs of around 17 million people who are living in poverty in their own country (by doubling the income of those living on the poverty line, which is approximately 1USD per day)

Your numbers are irrelevant though. Not all those women want to (or are able to) become refugees/asylum seekers. The vast, vast majority of those who do don't (and won’t) chose the U.K. It’s nonsense to talk about whole populations.

Afghan women can't come to the UK just because life is awful there.

Understatement much

And the un-educated part

And as for the sexual assaults, FOI requests found that men from Afghanistan and Eritrea had more than 20 times more sexual crime convictions per 10000 population of that nationality than Britons.

Each man we let in from one of those high-risk countries poses a far higher risk than a British man.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/10/foreigners-commit-up-to-quarter-of-sex-crimes

Can’t open that because I’m not giving the Telegraph my email address. That headline seems deeply, deeply unlikely though and I assume that (as usual with the Telegraph) the actual report says something rather different. Don’t forget they are the paper that made up an entire family bemoaning their lack of multiple holidays. They aren’t credible.

Do you think that a young Afghan or Somali woman has had an education equivalent to that of a young British woman?

Pretending that everyone is just the same - no matter their vastly different experience through their whole life up to this point - is completely ridiculous.

https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings/00910-25/

Do you have any proof that they don't? Or are you just assuming?

And I am not pretending everyone is the same.

Your un-educated comment reveals a lot. Maybe educate yourself a bit more.

Up to you. It was widely reported at the time, and does indeed show that conviction rates are very very different for different nationalities.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and saying la-la-la doesn't change reality.

Well given that education is banned for girls over the age of 12 and that only 25% of primary-age girls in Somalia attend school, it's a fairly safe bet!

'do you have proof' , indeed😂 What on earth is the point of this nonsense?!

I think rape is an absolutely disgusting, foul crime. We don't need to import more of them.

People and cultures and nations aren't all the same unfortunately.

You do know the Taliban hasn't always been in power? That Afghanistan has universities?

You don't think Somali girls deserve a chance of education in the UK?

An no evidence of un educated female asylum seekers?