Violent rapist allowed to stay in UK to rape again

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Is there already a thread on this case? I will ask for this one to be removed if so. I am just angry that this horrible man’s feelings were put before the fact that he had a fetish about violent rape.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ye594p0z0o
It is quite wrong that the judge ordered he should be allowed to stay in the UK when it was clear to the Home Office that he would rape again.
Sorry, I have tried to insert a question about there being an inquiry into the decision of the judge to let him stay to rape women again but my phone won’t let me.

Ultimately does it matter where rapists come from. We have our own home grown scum and we let many more in via various channels. They are all a pointless scourge on society and the majority can’t be rehabilitated.

Even the bloody police force who is meant to protect us, employs them.

Remember though, #BeKind while you’re being raped and don’t do anything in future like seek justice as that might jeopardise the future of the nice man attacking you. His rights are more important than yours.

@5128gap "I think this case highlights serious flaws in the way we deal with dangerous violent men within our CJS. This is a hugely important issue. I think it is wrong to use cases like this to prop up anti immigration agendas "

All the more reason not import even more dangerous and violent men then. I wonder whether his victims (and the countless others of foreign rapists) would wholeheartedly agree with you. As @Seymour5 says, we are not the world's police. We haven't the resouces, even if we (and by we I mean women) felt sufficiently altruistic. You said yourself we have enough problems with home grown rapists, but it's worth noting that many of these men come from countries where women have no rights. If you think women are second class citizens in the UK, you should know that in many of these countries they come somewhere below cattle and men can do exactly as they please. And they do. There are no checks on these men, usually no documentation and they can more or less put whatever they like on their applications. There's little to no way to check anything.

I wouldn't presume to guess whether rape victims would agree with me and neither should you, given they are individual women not a homogeneous group.
I know that's often forgotten in the enthusiasm to weaponise them to serve anti immigration agendas, but it shouldn't be. Immigrant women are also victims of rape.
I would however be surprised if a woman who had been raped due to flaws in the CJS didn't feel these should be acknowledged and changed though. Which was my point, and not a controversial one I'd have thought.

It’s not ‘weaponising’ anything to talk about systems that put women last.

It’s dismissive to women to use that every time.

I am talking about a system that puts women last. Unfortunately I'm talking about a system that puts women last that some people don't want to talk about because its interrupting the anti immigration narrative.
Of course I'm not being 'dismissive to women' by saying that some people weaponise us to serve their agendas. I've never heard so many men so concerned about MVAWG in my life until it became something to blame on immigrant men.

I'm the victim of 3 different British men who raped me in three different circumstances. I only reported one and it took over 20 years for him to get any kind of "justice".

I blame the CJS and the prevailing social norms of misogyny which are allowed to persist.

And it pisses me off that peoples interest in this topic is only for a side agenda. Most rapes are not considered newsworthy.

We should cut all legal aid for asylum claims. The money syphoned to lawyers vs the home office is staggering and we end up with POS like this.

This is just not what I recognise. The system clearly prioritises men. That people say don’t discuss this is so odd. Of course women should without weaponising accusations.

Most rapes are not considered newsworthy

Most rapes don't involve a stranger dragging a women into the woods.

So the guy who was finally convicted of raping me? Attacked 9 other women. Z list celebrity. Made the news in a small way.

Was there a vehement thread about him? Nope. Just searched for him.

Not newsworthy enough for MN. But this is. Why?

Politicians and the media are playing you all for their agendas. They do not give a crap about women. Trust me.

Read my previous post... Half of his offences were stranger rapes.

What don't you recognise? A poster has just disclosed her own experience as a rape survivor in the CJS, which sadly reflects the experience of many women who do not get justice because of a failing system that as you say, prioritises men. All men. Including the 'home grown' ones.
I think women should be able to discuss this. I think women should be able to discuss this without continually being pushed to see rape as an immigration issue, and when daring to suggest there are other more significant issues that lead to our victim hood and prevent us receiving justice, getting scolded for not caring about victims, or some other nonsense way of closing down anything not immigration based.

It’s not just an immigration issue but that system is deprioritising women and girls. It makes us less safe.

By all means advocate for other changes but let women do the same re those systems without weaponising accusations or the bot one below.

'[the victim] described how she had had to take a course of medication to prevent HIV infection'

Does this mean the guy in the op has HIV? Or just a standard precaution.

where do you think he should be sent to?

I personally wouldn't have a problem with him being sent straight to Hell.

He won't be coming back from there, will he?

I don’t want him in prison for 17 years, no. I want him removed from the country. If Nigeria wants to lock him up based on his criminal sentence here that’s their choice.

He will be out on license in 8 years. I don’t want him on our streets.

Only 2.6% of rape offences reported to police result in a charge or summons.

Rape: Levels of prosecutions - House of Lords Library

It's increasing. Slowly. But fact is for those concerned that he'll get out some day? Over 97% of offenders never get close to even being put inside.

Want something to get angry about? Get fucking angry about that.

There is no relevance to this case as this man is Italy and Britain raised.

I really don’t know how you can care. He raped a young woman and showed no remorse.

I knew a girl who was violently raped after being dragged into bushes from a path in broad daylight. She was 19, walking in the sunshine, wearing jeans and a jumper. It ruined her life. It ruined both her sisters’ lives.

Rape is not a regular crime. It is an horrific crime.

Why should I care if this evil man wants to go to Nigeria or not? If he’s Nigerian that is where he should be shipped to. Let him fend for himself . Not our problem.

If he’s not a Uk citizen we shouldn’t have to pay to keep him banged up.

He did not arrive seeking asylum.

This creates a moral hazard though doesn't it? It means that people are free to commit serious crimes in this country and escape punishment as they will just be deported.

If the Novichok killers, who came to the UK with the express intention of committing murder, had been caught, would you be happy for them to just be deported back to Russia having accomplished their mission?

How about Jacob Ewing who came to the UK specifically to rape a girl he had been grooming online?

You can't just hand a plane ticket home to people who come to the UK and commit serious crimes.

I think previous posters had it .

Don't let men preside over rape cases

British men rape ,kill, maim rob and cause harm

We can't police all of them and people are not safe so what on earth are we allowing more people in who pose a risk ??

I don’t think this would be enough. So much needs to be reconsidered and changed.

My Nigerian female friends are astounded at how we are importing the men and the attitudes they are trying to escape from. It's even more astounding when her application for her Mum and Sister to visit are denied. They are financially solvent and have no wish to reside in the UK. No doubt this man is part of the resaons Nigeria is so dangerous for women and children. A third of the male prisoners could be deported. Violent male criminals aren't imprisoned because of a lack of spaces. Meanwhile women who commit non violent offences are going to prison. Conditions in women's prisons are worse than men's because they have to pander to them to keep control. We should be having sensible discussions on deportation. We aren't even deporting child rapists/kidnappers and there's no reason why we shouldn't.