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Violent rapist allowed to stay in UK to rape again

282 replies

Trint · 01/05/2026 07:28

Is there already a thread on this case? I will ask for this one to be removed if so. I am just angry that this horrible man’s feelings were put before the fact that he had a fetish about violent rape.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ye594p0z0o
It is quite wrong that the judge ordered he should be allowed to stay in the UK when it was clear to the Home Office that he would rape again.
Sorry, I have tried to insert a question about there being an inquiry into the decision of the judge to let him stay to rape women again but my phone won’t let me.

Custody picture of Gift Oladele

'Truly depraved' rapist jailed for 17 years for Wrexham attack

Gift Oladele, 24, had successfully fought a deportation bid after a previous sex attack.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ye594p0z0o

OP posts:
canuckup · 01/05/2026 16:56

Until they start raping male lawyers who work in Canary Wharf nothing will change

Naunet · 01/05/2026 16:59

Lemonthyme · 01/05/2026 10:33

Wow.

As someone who has been the victim of rape by three different men I'm incredibly offended by your comment.

Wanting to apply the law and recognising that this case is incredibly complex and not as simple as being portrayed in some of the red tops is not the same as "seeing the world through the violent rapist's eyes". I can feel your anger. And I'm angry too. But being angry still doesn't mean this guy has any right, legally, to be deported to Nigeria. It all looks incredibly complicated on that front.

What isn't complicated to the same degree is the low conviction rates and low sentencing for men who commit violence against women and girls and the low bar that those men have to meet by the probation service to be released from prison. And they're all nationalities of men that commit VAWG. Not just immigrant men.

And they're all nationalities of men that commit VAWG. Not just immigrant men

Why did you add that last comment? Are you trying to imply the previous poster is racist for some reason, or just incredibly thick? We all know very fucking well that men of all nationalities rape, thank you, that doesn't mean we want to import more.

Lemonthyme · 01/05/2026 17:19

No @Naunet but what frustrates me is the likes of Farage et al weaponising it when they are silent about other VAWG in general.

Lemonthyme · 01/05/2026 17:30

I do remember a radio interview with Jess Phillips again (as I said, bloody love her) she was sensibly pointing out that there are some misogynistic attitudes from certain parts of the world that recent immigrants may bring with them. Which may put people in harms way. But what she pointed that was in almost all cases, the perpetrators were male.

Yet when you point that out, even on MN, you will be met with responses of "but not all men".

Yep. Also not all immigrants. Not all British men but nearly all are men.

It's a wider problem which goes far beyond immigration and as this thread has wound me up in the extreme, I will bow out now. But what pisses me off, really pisses me off is the kind of horrible sexist dinosaurs like Farage like "The Daily Mail" etc and their ilk using women's pain to further their aims. Stop falling for their utter crap. Until they're bothered about all rape, I'll think their alarm and distress about cases like this is utter bullshit.

OldGothNowadays · 01/05/2026 17:32

Why are his human rights more important than the rights of women not to be raped??

He's a man..? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Naunet · 01/05/2026 17:58

Lemonthyme · 01/05/2026 17:19

No @Naunet but what frustrates me is the likes of Farage et al weaponising it when they are silent about other VAWG in general.

And you treat women who raise concerns about importing rapists, as if they must be the same as Farage? Women here arent responsible for him or other men of his ilk, we have very justified reasons to be concerned. It's extremely insulting to suggest we don't care about British rapists just because we're angry at the importation of more.

And just to add, many of us are aware that men weaponise rape for their own causes, that doesn't mean women should have to be silent about our own concerns or that our silly little minds have been brainwashed by men.

Birdsongisangry · 01/05/2026 18:37

ElenOfTheWays · 01/05/2026 15:45

where do you think he should be sent to?

I personally wouldn't have a problem with him being sent straight to Hell.

He won't be coming back from there, will he?

Edited

I'm not sure what the point of this post is, are you trying to prove you're more angry about rape than anyone else on the thread?
As much as we can fantasise at sending people who commit these crimes to a fantastical realm, Its not an option the courts have at their disposal.

Tauranga · 01/05/2026 19:19

Lemonthyme · 01/05/2026 10:59

I don't want him to stay @Trint. I just recognise it's complicated. I also think it's being weaponised by the far right in a way that's deeply unhelpful. In a way where most of them don't give a crap about women nor VAWG and they're weaponising this because of his race. When they genuinely stand up for all victims of male violence, I'll be more convinced they give a shit.

The o ky man in politwhobis standing up for the girls who have been murdered, raped, abused beyond belief and degraded by Pakastani grooming gangs is Rupert Lowe.

I think you'd call him Far Right.

I call him RIGHT.

JHound · 01/05/2026 19:33

Ponoka7 · 01/05/2026 16:52

My Nigerian female friends are astounded at how we are importing the men and the attitudes they are trying to escape from. It's even more astounding when her application for her Mum and Sister to visit are denied. They are financially solvent and have no wish to reside in the UK. No doubt this man is part of the resaons Nigeria is so dangerous for women and children. A third of the male prisoners could be deported. Violent male criminals aren't imprisoned because of a lack of spaces. Meanwhile women who commit non violent offences are going to prison. Conditions in women's prisons are worse than men's because they have to pander to them to keep control. We should be having sensible discussions on deportation. We aren't even deporting child rapists/kidnappers and there's no reason why we shouldn't.

We did not “import him” from Nigeria. So your “Nigerian friends” (pretending they exist) opinions are irrelevant.

He was “imported” as a child from Italy.

Birdsongisangry · 01/05/2026 20:06

Tauranga · 01/05/2026 19:19

The o ky man in politwhobis standing up for the girls who have been murdered, raped, abused beyond belief and degraded by Pakastani grooming gangs is Rupert Lowe.

I think you'd call him Far Right.

I call him RIGHT.

The one who made threats to and harassed two of his female employees?

Poetnojo · 01/05/2026 20:14

deeahgwitch · 01/05/2026 08:02

We have a male judge in Ireland who hands out pathetic little sentences to rapists and attackers of women. 🥲

Nolan! He 100% needs his harddrive checked.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 01/05/2026 20:17

Lemonthyme · 01/05/2026 16:04

Only 2.6% of rape offences reported to police result in a charge or summons.

Rape: Levels of prosecutions - House of Lords Library

It's increasing. Slowly. But fact is for those concerned that he'll get out some day? Over 97% of offenders never get close to even being put inside.

Want something to get angry about? Get fucking angry about that.

Yes, it’s a shocking statistic.
His word against her word, in a stranger rape case it’s probably easier to prove there was no consent when a woman is randomly attacked.
Remembering the young mother who passed out in the park and died from him sticking his penis down her throat, choked to death by a penis. Barbarism.
Jurors were not told of Iidow's previous convictions for sexual offences. Nice.

FernandoSor · 01/05/2026 20:44

MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky · 01/05/2026 16:36

I think previous posters had it .

Don't let men preside over rape cases

What exactly did the judge in this rape case do that wasn’t to your satisfaction? He was found guilty by a jury and convicted.

FernandoSor · 01/05/2026 20:47

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 01/05/2026 14:53

We should cut all legal aid for asylum claims. The money syphoned to lawyers vs the home office is staggering and we end up with POS like this.

This isn’t an asylum case. The offender is not and never has been an asylum seeker so I fail to see your point.

PoppinjayPolly · 01/05/2026 20:56

Naunet · 01/05/2026 17:58

And you treat women who raise concerns about importing rapists, as if they must be the same as Farage? Women here arent responsible for him or other men of his ilk, we have very justified reasons to be concerned. It's extremely insulting to suggest we don't care about British rapists just because we're angry at the importation of more.

And just to add, many of us are aware that men weaponise rape for their own causes, that doesn't mean women should have to be silent about our own concerns or that our silly little minds have been brainwashed by men.

Edited

This, I don’t understand the self righteousness of the posters who do the “why are you still going on about being raped?! Why are you being so awful and mean to this poor man?! What have you got against him?!”

PoppinjayPolly · 01/05/2026 20:57

FernandoSor · 01/05/2026 20:47

This isn’t an asylum case. The offender is not and never has been an asylum seeker so I fail to see your point.

Lucky he has a righteous person like you defending him..

FernandoSor · 01/05/2026 21:08

PoppinjayPolly · 01/05/2026 20:57

Lucky he has a righteous person like you defending him..

Stating fact isn’t defending anyone. This case has nothing to do with asylum.

He should have been deported after his first
offence but it appears the Home Office messed up.

Hopefully he will be deported after his current sentence.

ClassyCuckoo · 01/05/2026 21:57

JHound · 01/05/2026 19:33

We did not “import him” from Nigeria. So your “Nigerian friends” (pretending they exist) opinions are irrelevant.

He was “imported” as a child from Italy.

He is a Nigerian citizen. Not Italian and not British

Tauranga · 01/05/2026 23:09

Birdsongisangry · 01/05/2026 20:06

The one who made threats to and harassed two of his female employees?

Two points:

He is the only man in Parliament trying to get justice for girls and women who have been raped abused and murdered by the Pakastani rape gangs. This is a fact but you want to move the focus away from his tireless support of the working class. You want to direct the conversation.

He was accused by Nigel Farage of harassing 2 members of staff, police found no evidence.
He was accused of having alseimers. He was accused of owning guns illegally. Accused by Reform.

ElenOfTheWays · Yesterday 01:13

Birdsongisangry · 01/05/2026 18:37

I'm not sure what the point of this post is, are you trying to prove you're more angry about rape than anyone else on the thread?
As much as we can fantasise at sending people who commit these crimes to a fantastical realm, Its not an option the courts have at their disposal.

I'm not trying to prove anything. Perhaps I should have said send him to the afterlife instead. I wasn't referring to a "fantastical realm" I was suggesting I wouldn't have an issue if he was sentenced to the death penalty.

I don't actually believe a literal Hell anyway.

WearyAuldWumman · Yesterday 01:42

Bringemout · 01/05/2026 08:01

It really should be automatic deportation for anyone who breaks the law. I really don’t care if they have a family or will be deported to a war zone. It’s really not that hard to not rape or assualt anyone. The majority of us get through the day without committing a single crime.

This used to be the case.

My late father was a Displaced Person who was allowed to come to the UK in the late 1940s. The conditions were that he had to sign a contract to work where he was needed for a specific period of time, he had to report to the local police station on a weekly basis and he would be deported if he ever committed a crime.

I'll add that those DPs who originated from countries which finished up being behind the Iron Curtain would have been executed if they'd been returned to their original home.

He had no problem in complying with all this.

I don't understand why similar arrangements are no longer in place.

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 01:48

ColinOfficeTrolley · 01/05/2026 07:43

I don't think male judges should be able to preside over rape cases.

Considering the miniscule amount of prosecutions, I don't think this is a big ask.

I'm not sure that you'll find female judges to be any better.

I've heard of cases where a female defence lawyer presented the victim's choice of underwear to the jury with the implication that the victim was "asking for it".

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 02:11

The judge also said at the time that Oladele "has engaged positively in a process of rehabilitation and that this has had the impact of reducing the risk of reoffending".

Is there any evidence that it is possible to rehabilitate sex

FernandoSor · Yesterday 07:43

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 02:11

The judge also said at the time that Oladele "has engaged positively in a process of rehabilitation and that this has had the impact of reducing the risk of reoffending".

Is there any evidence that it is possible to rehabilitate sex

At the time of the immigration tribunal he had not been convicted of a sexual offence. His first conviction was for false imprisonment.

Clavinova · Yesterday 09:42

FernandoSor · Yesterday 07:43

At the time of the immigration tribunal he had not been convicted of a sexual offence. His first conviction was for false imprisonment.

A sexually-motivated attack;

A vulnerable woman was grabbed from behind and left terrified in a shocking attack as she walked alone to an appointment at an opticians. A court heard she feared she would be raped, but managed to fight off her attacker.

The man - Gift Oladele, then aged 21 - was jailed for two years in December 2022 after he was found guilty by a jury of false imprisonment. He had told police after his arrest in the May of that year, a court heard, that he 'just wanted to get it on with her'.