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CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 22:32

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Can I politely suggest that you read your post back with a little bit of self reflection as it really doesn’t come across well.

I’m not sure why you are making judgements on the financial position of posters on this thread (tbh though I wouldn’t live in London for any amount of money).

I found your unironic use of ‘provincial’ quite hilarious and again, what on earth is the relevance of his class to this conversation??

Unfortunately, that's what the Jewish community have received for decades now: gifted NHS London ambulances for their own private ambulance service; support of their own Jewish ethnically based viligante group, the Shomrim.

Have you forgotten why the Jewish run charity (that provides help to anyone who needs) required new ambulances? And ‘vigilante group’?? What evidence do you have for this?

Those of us who actually live in London and pay the taxes that subsidise the population in other regions of the UK..

There’s that self aggrandising again. Still irrelevant.

are a little tired of Jewish community leaders identifying themselves with Israel and demanding special privileges, bans on political marches, bans on political speech, forcing people in council housing to remove flags, etc. However, more than that we're tired of unequal treatment of different groups where the feelings of Jewish people are given greater consideration than those of others.

I can’t believe that you are saying this in all seriousness. Do you honestly think it is ok for the constant protests with occasional violence and overt hostility to Jews - blocking their way to synagogues, abusing and intimidating them in the street is acceptable?

What a revealing post.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 22:32

So annoying how threads get derailed by relentless pompous bs <yawn>

I will donate to Hatzolah tomorrow as well as to the political party that has a good chance of winning around here to be sure to keep the likes of Reform and Green out in the local elections. That is a key concern for me now.

And in depth lovely discussion and coffee on the weekend with ds about the going ons in British politics, he will be appalled to hear about Zack.

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 22:33

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No its not . Its because hes a fucking TERRORIST
Jesus christ on a bike what is wrong with some people?

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 22:38

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DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 22:42

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oh bless you 😂

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 22:42

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 22:33

No its not . Its because hes a fucking TERRORIST
Jesus christ on a bike what is wrong with some people?

Are we deporting all British citizen terrorists now? Where to? Why would other countries take in homegrown British citizen terrorists. Why should those British citizens be other countries' problem. Please explain rather than just swearing.

beethecrackon24995 · 30/04/2026 22:44

Claire, you sound very bitter and rather racist towards white people. Possible name change as your posts are very similar to another equally charming poster on another similar thread......

DannyDeever · 30/04/2026 22:45

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 22:16

He should have been deported the first time time he did it

Agree. It will be interesting to learn the detail of exactly why he wasn't deported.

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 22:46

Antisemitism is really quite something. For those who have just joined us, it means:

A Jewish-run and funded charitable ambulance service that helps all in need is evil because it only has branches where there are enough Jewish people to run it

When said ambulances are torched in an antisemitic attack and the NHS briefly loans a few while it replaces them, that means Jews control the NHS

Said ambulance service is evil and unfair because, as before, it can't serve every area in the country but fucked if I'm going to work towards improving community services in my area, I'm just going to bitch about this one

Something something rich middle class London

Something something provincial povvos no clever as me

A Jewish-run neighbourhood watch group, which again serves everyone, is a vigilante group and there's totally no need for it LOOK AWAY FROM THE STABBY ANTISEMITIC TERRORIST, YOU POVVOS

Something something British people no clever like me

You only hate the stabby antisemitic terrorist coz he is black

Something something did I mention me very clever?

DannyDeever · 30/04/2026 22:47

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If I go to Somalia and commit a violent crime I would expect to be deported. They wouldn't be being racist. They'd just quite reasonably want rid of me.

Agree?

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 22:50

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DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 22:53

Often on threads like this you get a poster or 2 who seem to have a special little interest, hyper focusing on some pet peeve. They tend to be incredibly repetitive throwing around etreme bits of sound bites. Some mumsnetters believe these are bots but I think it's merely attention seeking.

QueenBambi · 30/04/2026 22:53

Maybe he should have dropped the knife!

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 22:55

DannyDeever · 30/04/2026 22:47

If I go to Somalia and commit a violent crime I would expect to be deported. They wouldn't be being racist. They'd just quite reasonably want rid of me.

Agree?

But it's not that simple. This is someone who has British citizenship and has lived in UK since they were a small child. It's not someone who is a non-citizen and arrived last week.

Are you saying that anyone who didn't receive British citizenship at birth should lose their citizenship if they "commit a violent crime"? Maybe you're going further and saying that anyone born outside the UK (e.g. Boris Johnson) should lose their citizenship if they "commit a violent crime"? Are you or your family in the group of people who could be affected by this - or is this just something that will apply to "other" people?

I want rid of a lot of white British natives who commit violent crimes, but are we just stuck with those?

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 22:58

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 22:42

Are we deporting all British citizen terrorists now? Where to? Why would other countries take in homegrown British citizen terrorists. Why should those British citizens be other countries' problem. Please explain rather than just swearing.

They can be stripped of British citizenship and sent back where they came from.
Sooner the better in my opinion.
Anyone committing serious crimes should be going the same way.

TwitterRatti · 30/04/2026 23:00

JHound · 30/04/2026 22:09

What you said was BS. The conflation of Israel with all Jewish people isn’t something only seen among violent anti-semitic thugs. You see it among those who are pro and anti Israel.

I think you're getting in a right old muddle and confusing me with someone else. Which part of my post is bs exactly? You agreed with it for goodness sake! Actually, don't bother replying. I can't be bothered with any more gaslighting.

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 23:02

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 22:56

Waiting to see how Hatzola and Jewish leaders are to blame for this. It's going to be epic.

I sometimes feel like I'm pathetic and unfulfilled and haven't reached my full potential. Looking forward to hearing how I can blame the Jews for that.

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 23:08

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 22:58

They can be stripped of British citizenship and sent back where they came from.
Sooner the better in my opinion.
Anyone committing serious crimes should be going the same way.

So you have two classes of citizenship: those who cannot be stripped of British citizenship (native population who have no ancestry elsewhere) - they get to stay; those who have entitlement to live elsewhere - they get deported. Different punishments for the native population compared with the rest.

Do you appreciate that some people will have been born in the UK but will not have had British citizenship from birth. Are they also to be deported?

All Jewish people are entitled to Israeli citizenship? So all Jewish people who commit serious crimes be stripped of their British citizenship.

Really the whole "deport the criminals" thing, at least when applied to British citizens, just devolves into a different lesser punishment for those with white British native ancestry and a greater punishment for those with any other ancestry. And the effect has been millions of people in the UK increasingly fearful of their rights and their children's rights and status. Every day Reform talk about breaking some treaty and stripping some more rights from those with foreign ancestry. And as the cherry on the cake, the same people who spout this hate preach to us about Jewish people living in fear (which is true) while they are inflicting just as much fear on us.

Allisnotlost1 · 30/04/2026 23:11

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The Met are by and large a disgrace, I agree with you on that. But police (and prison and probation staff and social workers) living out of borough is common and sensible. The lack of ethnic diversity in the Met is nothing to with them recruiting from outside of London and everything to do with it being a deeply racist organisation. It attracts people who want to have power over others, has appealing vetting practice, no discipline and a culture of covering its arse. So generally quite different to teaching.

However you’re wrong that the ethnic make up of teachers is representative. It’s not. About two thirds of teachers are white, while around one third of pupils are.

Allisnotlost1 · 30/04/2026 23:12

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 22:58

They can be stripped of British citizenship and sent back where they came from.
Sooner the better in my opinion.
Anyone committing serious crimes should be going the same way.

FFS, where should we send British citizens?

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 23:13

Seems to be more than a few PPs on this thread who appear to be trying to defend this murderous fuck.
In the words of the Manic street preachers: If you tolerate this, then your children will be next. Although that ship has pretty much already sailed.
I dont care if they lived in the UK for ex amount of years.
They can fuck right off

Allisnotlost1 · 30/04/2026 23:16

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 23:13

Seems to be more than a few PPs on this thread who appear to be trying to defend this murderous fuck.
In the words of the Manic street preachers: If you tolerate this, then your children will be next. Although that ship has pretty much already sailed.
I dont care if they lived in the UK for ex amount of years.
They can fuck right off

I have t seen anyone defend him. And you haven’t answered the question: where would we deport British citizens to? Where should we send you to, if you commit a crime?

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 23:17

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