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coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 12:42

emuloc · 30/04/2026 12:40

Why is that funny? Please explain.

You wouldn't listen.

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Meadowfinch · 30/04/2026 12:42

I'm not sure I'd call him evil. He's a fantasist snake-oil salesman and does the green movement a huge disservice. His policies are ill informed and idiotic, and I'd drill holes in my own teeth before I'd vote for him.

But evil - that implies capability.

Sesma · 30/04/2026 12:42

Maybe he should have dropped the knife

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 12:42

LittleJustice · 30/04/2026 12:31

I did watch that video and thought what on earth are they kicking him like that for.

So I don't know whether he's evil or not but they shouldn't have kicked him no matter what he did. Once they had overpowered him.

No they didn't kick him, they'd struggle to get the knife of him though it made the police look a bit badly trained.

Imagine being Jewish and going about your day in good old England and being killed for belonging to a faith and or ethnic group.

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newmenewwhatever · 30/04/2026 12:43

I personally think that they didn’t kick him hard enough, the terrorist piece of shit!

emuloc · 30/04/2026 12:43

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 12:42

You wouldn't listen.

Ok, if you say so. Good Day.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 12:43

newmenewwhatever · 30/04/2026 12:43

I personally think that they didn’t kick him hard enough, the terrorist piece of shit!

Well said

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Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 12:44

JohnBullshit · 30/04/2026 12:35

I have no sympathy for violent offenders, but I don't believe the police should join them by kicking the shit out of someone they've already apprehended.

He wasn't in custody yet and still had his knife so in what way was he apprehended?

HavingABitOfAMare · 30/04/2026 12:44

WallaceinAnderland · 30/04/2026 12:36

You can't just call another person evil though OP. No one will take you seriously.

Yeah this is true actually.

As much as I'm no Polanski fan, it does make the OP come across as a bit childish.

floppybit · 30/04/2026 12:45

LittleJustice · 30/04/2026 12:31

I did watch that video and thought what on earth are they kicking him like that for.

So I don't know whether he's evil or not but they shouldn't have kicked him no matter what he did. Once they had overpowered him.

He was refusing the order to roll over and hand over the knife. As he was still armed they were well within their rights to use as much force as necessary to get him to comply with the order to roll over and let go of the knife. It’s actually a member of the public who steps in to help roll him over. If he had done as instructed he wouldn’t have been kicked. He was refusing to follow orders.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 12:45

NeelyOHara · 30/04/2026 12:41

This, the unarmed police did an amazing job. They had no idea what other weapons he might have on him.

Or whether he was wearing a suicide vest.

MabelRoyds · 30/04/2026 12:45

Afaik Z. Polanski is more than a few sandwiches short of a picnic and is trying hard to virtue signal by pointing the finger at brave people doing their job.

orangegato · 30/04/2026 12:46

Kicking in the head forces the terrorist to use his hands to protect his head and er, drop the knife in doing so. And who gives a fuck anyway? A little nudge with a policeman’s shoe is the least he deserves.

Everanewbie · 30/04/2026 12:46

LittleJustice · 30/04/2026 12:31

I did watch that video and thought what on earth are they kicking him like that for.

So I don't know whether he's evil or not but they shouldn't have kicked him no matter what he did. Once they had overpowered him.

He had a knife in his hand and refused to drop it. They should have shot him dead.

Meadowfinch · 30/04/2026 12:46

JohnBullshit · 30/04/2026 12:35

I have no sympathy for violent offenders, but I don't believe the police should join them by kicking the shit out of someone they've already apprehended.

They hadn't apprehended him at that point. He was still protecting the knife he was holding, by lying on it. They needed to get him to surrender the knife and handcuff him. Until that point they need to do whatever is necessary to secure their and the public's safety.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 12:47

newmenewwhatever · 30/04/2026 12:43

I personally think that they didn’t kick him hard enough, the terrorist piece of shit!

True.

PlumPuddingandGravy · 30/04/2026 12:48

LittleJustice · 30/04/2026 12:31

I did watch that video and thought what on earth are they kicking him like that for.

So I don't know whether he's evil or not but they shouldn't have kicked him no matter what he did. Once they had overpowered him.

He wasn’t overpowered though was he? He still had the knife. It’s not like he was cuffed on the ground and they carried on sticking the boot in.

I’d love to know what the critics of the police would’ve done in this situation, aside from run away.

Smilesinthesunshine · 30/04/2026 12:48

newmenewwhatever · 30/04/2026 12:43

I personally think that they didn’t kick him hard enough, the terrorist piece of shit!

Totally agree

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 12:48

Smilesinthesunshine · 30/04/2026 12:48

Totally agree

What was that string that everyone seems to get tangled up in?

Dolphinnoises · 30/04/2026 12:49

Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 12:41

Because he still had a weapon ie the knife he used on his victims.
Also its standard training (in the military atleast) to use your hands to secure your own weapon and your feet to subdue the enemy/attacker if you dont want to shot them or no lethal tactics like a taker have not worked as in the case of this terrorist

That’s really interesting, and makes sense of the video on social media

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 12:49

Unfortunately when politicians make comments like that they are playing right in to the hands of Reform. So callous.

ArtAngel · 30/04/2026 12:50

Where is the footage of the suspect being kicked after being overpowered and disarmed?

The police had a man walking towards them pointing a knife at the, They had no way of knowing whether he had other weapons - including explosives - about his person, hence them shouting to secure his arm. They needed him absolutely unable to move or do anything.

So easy for armchair hippy fantastists like ZP to criticise the police for split second actions in the middle of a public in danger.

I have so many criticisms of the way the police act / have acted in certain situations but I suspect that in the heat of a very heated moment when your own life and the lives of people around you are potentially at risk you don't leave any margin for your target to get back up.

It's really brave to tackle people like this. He WAS struggling, even after being tasered. He could have had another knife, a detonator....

ArtAngel · 30/04/2026 12:50

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 12:48

What was that string that everyone seems to get tangled up in?

The taser wire

zzplei · 30/04/2026 12:51

He's not 'evil' and hyperbole like that's fueling dangerous levels of discords.

I saw the footage of the police kicking the offender in the head (one officer did it repeatedly, 3 or 4 times, the other did it once). It is serious and I interpreted it as the officers being out of their depth because of lack of training/experience so resorted to blunt force (and swearing) - an emotional response rather than demonstrating control and knowledge of how to disarm someone. I don't blame them for that - they're normal police officers, not firearms officers. You can practice using a taser against a pretend suspect but it won't prepare you for a real life situation you might face only once in your career.

How should officers disarm someone lying on the ground after being tasered? I don't know and it's obvious those officers didn't know either. Perhaps hitting the suspect's arm with a baton? But kicking the offender in the head certainly isn't the right method and the Met should review the training they give their officers.

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