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Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 21:29

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They are volunteers, paid for by donations and they help anyone in need, not just Jews

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 21:30

Hmm, something isn't ringing quite right. The antisemitism is genuine, as is the paranoia, but without wishing to reveal too much about myself, I know quite a lot of affluent middle class Londoners and don't get me wrong, they're definitely capable of being pompous and wonky, but they're not usually this... performative? I mean, they don't generally have to tell you how rich and middle class and London they are? They're more... self assured, in that way of people who just are what they are? Often don't even realise their privilege because it's their normal.

Anyway, still seeking suggestions for a povvo provincial charity to honour the charmer. TIA.

Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 21:32

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:04

@Hoardasurass ignore that silly poster. Imagine being so ill informed as well as envious of the good things others achieve.

I would love to learn more about this ambulance service, how does it work and how do they get funded? It sounds amazing and really positive, obviously it will also exist in the context of the Holocaust as well as historic and current anti semitism in the UK. I'd love to donate if possible.

Oh and I'm not Jewish but the same age old anti semitism on this thread is seriously creepy.

They are funded entirely by donations from the local Jewish population and the odd non Jewish person in the local area.
They have their own phone number and anyone in their call out area can phone them instead of 999 and get the same treatment that a st John's ambulance or NHS ambulance would including emergency treatment on route to hospital.
They fund full paramedic traing for the volunteers who staff them aswell as the equipment and supplies that are needed.
They are a global charity and have branches all over the world where there's Jewish communities.
I'm not Jewish but did use them when I was living abroad and had need. Honestly I couldn't fault them and they dont charge like many private ambulance services do. I did help with some fundraising when I recovered until we moved and meet some lovely people through it.

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 21:34

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They would even help you. Which is probably more than you would.

Allisnotlost1 · 30/04/2026 21:37

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:16

I LOVE this.

I'll also donate in honour of Claire.

You are right easy enough to find, just google Hatzola and the donate option is right at the top of the page.

they even treated the knifeman at the scene.
Wonderful I am so happy to read this as it restores a tiny bit of faith in humanity. The Hatzola paramedics sound amazing and such a worthwhile charity. Thank you for sharing.

Also donated. On behalf of @ClaireByrne1987

Allisnotlost1 · 30/04/2026 21:40

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How bad must your life be that you’re hankering after access to an ambulance - at such a young age too. Most of us try to stay out of them.

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 21:47

I've also donated a small amount. Keep going @ClaireByrne1987. 😊

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:49

Reading the posts on this thread alone yes, @coulditbeme2323 I agree that what the Green Party Leader did was evil. It doesn't him him evil as a person but his action facilities hatred and misinformation and that is populist, shrewd and divisive. He is the leader of a main British party and has no problem whatsoever triggering a chain reaction of online hate against a minority and actively distract from the attacks. We do have some immoral politicians these days, don't we?Kemi Badenoch doesn't seem to be quite as bad as the rest, despite her handling of the post office scandal. Need to work hard to keep both Nigel and Zack / David out. Will donate to my main local party also to help will keep these horrible politicians as far as possible away from power.

Greyblankie · 30/04/2026 21:51

Shame they couldn’t just shoot the cunt

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 21:54

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:49

Reading the posts on this thread alone yes, @coulditbeme2323 I agree that what the Green Party Leader did was evil. It doesn't him him evil as a person but his action facilities hatred and misinformation and that is populist, shrewd and divisive. He is the leader of a main British party and has no problem whatsoever triggering a chain reaction of online hate against a minority and actively distract from the attacks. We do have some immoral politicians these days, don't we?Kemi Badenoch doesn't seem to be quite as bad as the rest, despite her handling of the post office scandal. Need to work hard to keep both Nigel and Zack / David out. Will donate to my main local party also to help will keep these horrible politicians as far as possible away from power.

My biggest fear is that Reform and Greens will realise they're two cheeks of the same racist, country-savaging arse and... join forces. Then we really are fucked.

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 21:57

We should get this back on track, a certain poster seems to be putting very provocative posts in order to take us away from talking about how awful Zach is. So let’s ignore and stop letting a poster derail the thread

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/04/2026 21:58

In threads like this one I wish posts are actually kept, instead of being deleted, so everyone can see them for what they are.

Gloriia · 30/04/2026 21:59

Greyblankie · 30/04/2026 21:51

Shame they couldn’t just shoot the cunt

Totally agree. He'll be out in a few years and will do exactly the same again.

Well done to the police.

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 22:01

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 21:47

I've also donated a small amount. Keep going @ClaireByrne1987. 😊

Great idea. Another donation made

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 22:03

Gloriia · 30/04/2026 21:59

Totally agree. He'll be out in a few years and will do exactly the same again.

Well done to the police.

In any other country where the police are armed across the board he would have been shot. He was extremely lucky to have been disarmed before armed response arrived

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 22:04

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/04/2026 21:58

In threads like this one I wish posts are actually kept, instead of being deleted, so everyone can see them for what they are.

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I take that point and understand the sentiment, but I don't think we need further examples on here of how antisemitism looks - social media will show it all, and usually with less bloviation - and I think Jewish posters shouldn't have to be confronted with it. If people get to hear that blatantly racist posts stand on MN, we'll get more of them, all feeding off each other like some shit antisemitic orgy/banquet (the Greens' annual conference?)

If nothing else, it always pisses people off to get posts deleted so it's worth it for that.

ThisSpoonyGreyTiger · 30/04/2026 22:07

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If you hate British people so much why the fuck do you live here?

JHound · 30/04/2026 22:09

TwitterRatti · 30/04/2026 18:45

What's bs? I'm not sure where you're going with that. I'll be clearer to avoid confusion, the British Jewish community living in the UK is now under daily threat from acts of anti Semitic, violent hate crime precisely because these terrorists are conflating Israel with people who happen to be Jewish. No ifs, no buts. It's happening. Who else is doing this? Who else is being targeted?

What you said was BS. The conflation of Israel with all Jewish people isn’t something only seen among violent anti-semitic thugs. You see it among those who are pro and anti Israel.

JHound · 30/04/2026 22:10

ThisSpoonyGreyTiger · 30/04/2026 22:07

If you hate British people so much why the fuck do you live here?

Where does it say they hate British people?

ThisSpoonyGreyTiger · 30/04/2026 22:12

JHound · 30/04/2026 22:10

Where does it say they hate British people?

Well there's all the comments about how stupid and ignorant British people are...

NoisyHiker · 30/04/2026 22:14

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 21:34

They would even help you. Which is probably more than you would.

Certainly more than they would deserve.

Dollymylove · 30/04/2026 22:16

AtIusvue · 30/04/2026 21:21

This is exactly why the police did not use excessive force. This terrorist was a threat to life and limb, refusing to drop the weapon.

He previously stabbed a police officer seven times.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15780401/Retired-police-dog-handler-moment-knifed-seven-times-Golders-Green.html

He should have been deported the first time time he did it

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 22:26

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DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 22:26

I rather think Rowley has a duty to defend and protect his officers from misinformation during a live terror investigation that could put them in danger or lower their morale.

The commuter cops things on the other hand is ridiculous. How should cops afford London prices, many professions commute to London. There is some seriously poor reputation management on this thread it's so badly done.

I'll make sure to take ds out for a nice walk and coffee this weekend. He is doing politics a levels and I am keen to discuss this news topic in depth. So much to talk about and to teach. I will also tell him about the Jewish ambulance service and the rhetoric anti semtic people use to try and undermine the good work. It's so interesting as well as saddening to see how anti semitism is perpetuated, the same centuries old myths. I will ensure that my offspring are very well educated on these things, they already are but its work in progress.

If anyone has any reading recommendations about populism in politics, please do share.

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 22:31

ThisSpoonyGreyTiger · 30/04/2026 22:12

Well there's all the comments about how stupid and ignorant British people are...

The statement I made was "It's indicative of the low level of political education of the average British people that they are comfortable with police starting to tell politicians what they should had shouldn't say."

That is not the same as saying "how stupid and ignorant British people are". I do think that the "all must have prizes" era of education in the UK has a lot to answer for. It's raised a generation of people who cannot engage with material in front of them but just spew out emotional responses.

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