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Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 21:01

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 20:30

"The Hatzola are a Jewish charity that BOUGHT their own ambulances and fund the cost of running the service themselves and they serve the local population regardless of their faith."

Untrue. https://www.londonambulance.nhs.uk/2026/03/25/london-ambulance-service-loans-ambulances-to-jewish-community-following-devastating-arson-attack/

Yes the charity were LOANED ambulances to help them function after the terrorist arson attack that destroyed 2 of theirs whilst they arrange replacement ambulances of their own ones which were destroyed.
This is some epic twisting of facts to fit your racist narrative

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/04/2026 21:03

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Fuck off.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:04

Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 20:56

They are not funded by the NHS they are a self funding charity just like st John's ambulance service, so no its not an "extra NHS funded ambulances that are taken away from the rest of london".
You really need to stop spreading lies.
If you want a local ambulances charity then set 1 up yourself, you fundraise and buy your own ambulances and pay to train paramedics to work on them just like the jewish population did with the hatzola

@Hoardasurass ignore that silly poster. Imagine being so ill informed as well as envious of the good things others achieve.

I would love to learn more about this ambulance service, how does it work and how do they get funded? It sounds amazing and really positive, obviously it will also exist in the context of the Holocaust as well as historic and current anti semitism in the UK. I'd love to donate if possible.

Oh and I'm not Jewish but the same age old anti semitism on this thread is seriously creepy.

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 21:04

You have to just marvel. Ambulances for all, run and funded by Jewish community, are torched in an antisemitic attack, and people are bitching about shadowy forces because the NHS loaned a few of their own for a few days while they replaced them. Therefore Jews bad and control the NHS, I am very clever rich middle class Londoner raaaah.

Obviously, it is pointless trying to engage with this. You must just stand back and learn, after you've picked your jaw up off the floor. Holy cow. And they really think they're the reasonable truth tellers!

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 21:07

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DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:08

You have to just marvel. Ambulances for all, run and funded by Jewish community, are torched in an antisemitic attack, and people are bitching about shadowy forces because the NHS loaned a few of their own for a few days while they replaced them. Therefore Jews bad and control the NHS, I am very clever rich middle class Londoner raaaah.

Is that what they were on about? The fact that the NHS lent them vehicles when theirs were torched? It's all not very thinly veiled is it?

SpaceRaccoon · 30/04/2026 21:08

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 20:58

They really aren't genuinely precious, it's political posturing and a lovely opportunity to spread hate and misinformation online.

Very true. It's all very selective, isn't it?

Womblesgash · 30/04/2026 21:08

Here's the thing..those Officers will not get disciplined by their superiors for using excessive force nor would the CPS charge them with assault nor would a jury ever find them guilty so guess what........its safe to assume the consensus will be that they have NOT used excessive force so your opinion is not going to change this.

The basic facts are this: the male still had the knife and there is still a very real threat to life for those Officers and members of the public, The male ignored Officers requests to put the knife down. Taser had not incapacitated him. All the Officers want to do is get the knife off him and get him in handcufffs in case he has other weapons/explosives. Kicking him in the head is fully justified when there is a threat to life which there still is while he holds the knife.

It might not look pretty to you but consider this...What if the male managed to overpower those Officers and get up? When people are full of adrenaline they easily can and it happens. What if the male managed to use the knife on anyone who tried to get close to handcuff him or use a baton?. These are the kind of things that would have been running through the Officer's minds whose main priority is to protect life by getting that knife off him and getting him un handcuffs.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:09

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You need to learn to quote properly. Please.

SpaceRaccoon · 30/04/2026 21:10

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What appalling views you have.

Allisnotlost1 · 30/04/2026 21:11

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Are you quite ok?

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 21:11

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Oh boy, I really hope this post stays forever and ever. You are really showing everyone exactly what you are! Care to carry on with more uninformed rubbish?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 21:11

CatherineRachel16 · 30/04/2026 20:02

I watched the video and there was no need for multiple officers to repeatedly kick someone they'd already apprehended, irrespective of the crime. The Met releasing their own body cam footage which doesn't paint the full picture, indicates to me they are aware bystander footage shows them in a very poor light and they're trying to reclaim the narrative.

Gosh, so many people on this thread that have direct experience of facing down an armed terrorist attempting to kill multiple people! What are the odds?

Please do share your expertise and explain how you would have taken him down without a bruise or a scratch.

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 21:12

I've just made a donation to Hatzola in honour of Claire; I don't think I can share donation links but it's easy to find. Suggest you all do the same. I'd like to make one in favour of povvo working class non Londoners as well, any suggestions which charity it should be?

Claire, I have bad news for you. It seems Hatzola value life so much, there are reports that they even treated the knifeman at the scene. This means that, if you collapse and they're called, they'll treat you too even as you bitch about Jews and complain about them not having a base on Mars all the way to A&E and beyond. You can always even the score by dropping an anvil on your head when you get home.

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 21:14

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What a post. It’s not a good look to think this stuff.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 21:16

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 21:12

I've just made a donation to Hatzola in honour of Claire; I don't think I can share donation links but it's easy to find. Suggest you all do the same. I'd like to make one in favour of povvo working class non Londoners as well, any suggestions which charity it should be?

Claire, I have bad news for you. It seems Hatzola value life so much, there are reports that they even treated the knifeman at the scene. This means that, if you collapse and they're called, they'll treat you too even as you bitch about Jews and complain about them not having a base on Mars all the way to A&E and beyond. You can always even the score by dropping an anvil on your head when you get home.

I LOVE this.

I'll also donate in honour of Claire.

You are right easy enough to find, just google Hatzola and the donate option is right at the top of the page.

they even treated the knifeman at the scene.
Wonderful I am so happy to read this as it restores a tiny bit of faith in humanity. The Hatzola paramedics sound amazing and such a worthwhile charity. Thank you for sharing.

KatiePricesKnickers · 30/04/2026 21:18

HarrietPierce · 30/04/2026 19:13

"All those marching over the last two years and spouting anti Jewish hate."

Well many Jews have been on the marches against the genocide in Gaza.

That doesn’t legitimize the marches at all.

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 21:21

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EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 21:22

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Of all the things to worry about. There’s other people who live in London on the thread, your posts are off.

ShermanMcCoy · 30/04/2026 21:23

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ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 21:23

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ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 21:26

And that's not specific to Jewish community leaders. I say the same about Muslim community leaders decrying Islamophobia while also ratcheting up communalism.

Most of us Londoners want a civic-based society with equal rights for all and no state support for communalism.

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 21:27

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What happened to get you here? There was a 70ish year old man stabbed whilst simply waiting for a bus, five minutes after someone else.

ShermanMcCoy · 30/04/2026 21:28

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