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Lalgarh · 30/04/2026 13:54

John Rees from the Stop The War Coalition (the SWP essentially) was on world at one R4 just now.

Asked as to whether their pro Palestine marches given any thought to the chants and placards that members have been using that Jewish community has cited as inciting hatred, he gave a reply very much echoing the "perception" comments of Polanski and blamed the pro Israel media for creating hysteria. Also claimed there are very few actual incidents.

Essentially a carbon copy of what Tommy Robinson would say if he was asked about racial abuse on a unite the kingdom march

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 13:55

MandingoAteMyBaby · 30/04/2026 13:54

Polanski isn’t evil. Police brutality is evil. Murder is evil. Knife attacks are evil. Bombing civilians and shooting kids is evil.

You forgot radical islam

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BellaBlackberry83 · 30/04/2026 13:56

There is an awful lot of misunderstanding on this thread. The police are (regularly) held to account and cannot use force that is not proportionate to the threat they face. Body worn footage has now meant that incidents can be picked over at length in the cold light of day (which is no bad thing).

We now have a society where police are often reticient to use their powers for fear of criticism later. There is a line between holding police to account and ensuring that the police do feel empowered to use their powers as needed to protect us all. That is why ZP's comments are ill-considered and harmful.

Here, shooting him dead would have been considered proportionate. He is lucky they were not armed.

They used their taser. He did not drop the knife. They had every right to use as much force as necessary to make him drop the knife, which includes kicks to the head.

I cannot believe it has been suggested that they shouldn't have sworn at him. Yes, the police are taught to swear in order to exert control if needed to. The fact this is even suggested suggests how much ignorance there is around lawful use of force.

MyFellowScroller · 30/04/2026 13:57

Is he 'evil' for expressing an opinion about policing?
Yes, for voicing this particular opinion about the police trying to get the knife from a big powerful man. They they haven't even had time to clear up the mess but along comes HypnoBoobs leading with his mouth rather than his brain. Again!

ParmaVioletTea · 30/04/2026 13:58

He's deeply anti-Semitic - sad to see such a self-hating Jew selling out for the clicks & votes.

Also a misogynist - interesting how misogyny and anti-Semitism so often go together.

Interesting also how many terrorists have a record of domestic violence - not only towards partners, but towards other family members (the Southport murdere was hell to live with & violent in the home, apparently).

Dappy777 · 30/04/2026 13:58

If that had been a middle-aged Englishman, who reads the Daily Mail and opposes mass immigration, Polanski and his friends would have been laughing and cheering.

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 13:59

The police at that point also thought that he might have a suicide belt. So unarmed police officers trying to disarm a man who has tried to murder 2 people, still held a knife and with potentially the means to blast himself and others to oblivion. I would have kicked him too.

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 14:01

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 13:59

The police at that point also thought that he might have a suicide belt. So unarmed police officers trying to disarm a man who has tried to murder 2 people, still held a knife and with potentially the means to blast himself and others to oblivion. I would have kicked him too.

Those criticising would have done what exactly.

Secondtrythebest · 30/04/2026 14:02

DeathNote11 · 30/04/2026 12:34

He's been privileged & safe as houses all of his life, as have most of his ilk. People like that don't understand that the most effective way to get a person to drop a weapon is to attack their head. Hands will instinctively open in an attempt to protect the head. The police were quick & effective. A job well done.

Woudn't want you as my martial art instructor-never heard that advice in my karate / self defence class

ShermanMcCoy · 30/04/2026 14:02

Dave Paulden is an utter plank, and is symptomatic of all that is wrong with the UK.

PropertyD · 30/04/2026 14:03

DeathNote11 · 30/04/2026 12:34

He's been privileged & safe as houses all of his life, as have most of his ilk. People like that don't understand that the most effective way to get a person to drop a weapon is to attack their head. Hands will instinctively open in an attempt to protect the head. The police were quick & effective. A job well done.

This is correct. The bastard still had hold of the knife ready to stab anyone who was trying to stop him. I agree he should be deported back to Somalia but presumably they wont want him either.

FinchiePink · 30/04/2026 14:05

MaidOfSteel · 30/04/2026 13:40

Like the word racist, with which the left so like to tar anyone who dares to disagree with them?

Sure, if you like, although I don't see what relevance that is to my post.

Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 14:05

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 13:02

I'm sorry but yabvu

My heart goes out to British Jews, always ❤️. Its terrifying, especially in areas with a big Jewish population. A man was just walking and minding his business and ended up running from a crazed knife man! Insane.

You dont kick a mentally ill person in the head when arresting them though?! He was on the ground already. It seemed racist to me, but i didn't want to start a thread.

Still, thats not the story. Hope the men are okay and well and know that Britain is on their side

He's a known terrorist its nothing to do with racism from police. He on tge other hand is a racist terrorist who had just stabbed two Jewish men because they are Jewish and still had hid knife.
As for the mh of a racist terrorist give over.
Honestly why are you playing the racism card to defend a racist terrorist

olivepicanto · 30/04/2026 14:06

PigletJohn · 30/04/2026 13:48

Disarmed and arrested him, obviously.

Which they did. Without further injury. Well done to the police.

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 14:07

Another day, another dodgy Green in the media.

Green Party candidates arrested over anti-Semitism

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/dc39ec152a02f43b

Can't imagine who ZP is appealling to....

Green Party candidates arrested over anti-Semitism

Social media post allegedly by candidate for Clapham Town claimed synagogue attacks ‘were revenge’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/dc39ec152a02f43b

CoffeeAndACroissant · 30/04/2026 14:07

Hamas is evil.
Netanyahu is evil.
Trump is evil.
Putin is evil.
The IRGC is evil.

They all have blood on their hands.

Polanski is an idiot. But YABU to describe him as evil when his actions are nothing like those of the above.

zurigo · 30/04/2026 14:08

Hard left always sympathise with terrorists. That's one of the many reasons why Jeremy Corbyn is so despicable.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 14:09

zurigo · 30/04/2026 14:08

Hard left always sympathise with terrorists. That's one of the many reasons why Jeremy Corbyn is so despicable.

Spot on.

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loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 14:12

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 14:07

Another day, another dodgy Green in the media.

Green Party candidates arrested over anti-Semitism

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/dc39ec152a02f43b

Can't imagine who ZP is appealling to....

Both of them are completely cuckoo. I'm done with this, I really am. I didn't think I would see the day when people post such vile, antisemitic things.

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 14:13

BellaBlackberry83 · 30/04/2026 13:56

There is an awful lot of misunderstanding on this thread. The police are (regularly) held to account and cannot use force that is not proportionate to the threat they face. Body worn footage has now meant that incidents can be picked over at length in the cold light of day (which is no bad thing).

We now have a society where police are often reticient to use their powers for fear of criticism later. There is a line between holding police to account and ensuring that the police do feel empowered to use their powers as needed to protect us all. That is why ZP's comments are ill-considered and harmful.

Here, shooting him dead would have been considered proportionate. He is lucky they were not armed.

They used their taser. He did not drop the knife. They had every right to use as much force as necessary to make him drop the knife, which includes kicks to the head.

I cannot believe it has been suggested that they shouldn't have sworn at him. Yes, the police are taught to swear in order to exert control if needed to. The fact this is even suggested suggests how much ignorance there is around lawful use of force.

Thank you for explaining this so eloquently

bunsnroses1 · 30/04/2026 14:13

So many useful idiots on this thread. Particularly mind boggling are the ones re-branding an armed terrorist who had just stabbed two innocent people as a mentally ill victim of police brutality.
Suicidal empathy is alive and well among those whose critical thinking skills never evolved past the sixth form common room (Polanski being one of them).

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 14:13

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 14:12

Both of them are completely cuckoo. I'm done with this, I really am. I didn't think I would see the day when people post such vile, antisemitic things.

We can't say we weren't warned

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nomas · 30/04/2026 14:15

bunsnroses1 · 30/04/2026 14:13

So many useful idiots on this thread. Particularly mind boggling are the ones re-branding an armed terrorist who had just stabbed two innocent people as a mentally ill victim of police brutality.
Suicidal empathy is alive and well among those whose critical thinking skills never evolved past the sixth form common room (Polanski being one of them).

The police themselves said he is mentally ill though?

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 14:15

nomas · 30/04/2026 14:15

The police themselves said he is mentally ill though?

Quite frankly who cares?

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Lalgarh · 30/04/2026 14:16

Polanski is basically with that "poor knife man!" Tweet echoing terminally online grifter Shola mos shogbamimu

https://nitter.net/SholaMos1/status/2049509040003207224#m

And Islamist news site 5 pillars, run by the former press man for Iran backed channel Press TV

https://nitter.net/JimmySecUK/status/2049778991687463123#m.

An Iranian jihadist group have claimed responsibility for the attack, hence it's being investigated as a terrorist incident

https://nitter.net/OzKaterji/status/2049602822077833255#m

Over on the green party thread it's been noted that Polanski is himself terminally online so this would be who he's having in his feed. Even the mention of something not quite overly adoring brings out the Zac Fans to start their own battles on the person who posts it, accusing them of being part of The Establishment etc. very Farage. Very Trump.

But claiming to be nice.

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