Why isn't there any mainstream media focus on British men rape who molest and rape, women and children? But just 'the boat people' ?! Evil/badness exists everywhere!

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I'm an immigrant of white British/European descent and I saw a headline today in the mainstream media about 'rape meaning sex' pleaded according to asylum seekers who have recently tried at court for rape.

What's going on? If I had to report a (my) white British rapist, I really don't think it would've made headlines. Nor would've any other abuse. White Male British men seem to get off with impunity, or I know are ever accused and formally charged.

I feel it is a shocking abuse of power that only newcomers and brown skinned/other culture peoples are singled out.

Why is it that the UK remains so very much patriarchal and oppressive towards women and children? Why are we not centred in such as way that it as important for women and children to thrive in our society and culture as it is for men of any/whichever long standing class? Is it classicism or what is it? Explain it to me, I truly don't understand why it has to be like this other than those who get a rise out of feeling powerful and in control of others?

It's called patriarchy. The first rule of patriarchy is to deny that it exists...

Why are you so keen to deny the reality of the situation? These men come from places where women are property.

Of course they won't focus on that, it's always distract, misdirect so you don't actually look at the real culprits. And 'Forriners attacking are wimmin' sells papers/gets clicks and engagement, and sadly, sometimes votes.

I don't know if anyone's seen an amazing clip of a British woman at one of those 'Save our women' racist rallies where she gets up to the front and says she is a victim of grooming (loud cheers to this), then adds how she is disgusted this event is using abuse as a cover for racism and bigotry. She is, of course, dragged off the stage. Shows how much they actually care about abuse of women.

It’s bad enough having British rapists (white/black/brown) without importing more.

Yes it's shit that Telford has a Muslim population of 1000 and 100 men have been implicated in the rape of young girls...10% of the total population....so what were the women and children doing at that time?

When a huge number of all certain population are identified as committing crimes why are you defending them

Why come to England by small boats, when you are in a safe, prosperous European county.... actually ignore my first point and just answer that...I will bet you wont

Agree. It boggles my mind people defend them. It must be sheer denial of the situation? Idk

I think it’s to do with some stats which are freely available so it’s ammter of judging if those stats are accurate. Yes there are of course British men and women who behave badly/ illegally / offend but I think it’s to do with the ratios.

No one is defending them. But funny how every thread is hijacked and taken over and becomes about grooming gangs.

Why don't you ever want to talk about what white rapists do? What about the white man called john Ashby who pleaded guilty this week to raping a Sikh woman in her home and calling her a 'fucking Muslim bitch?'

Those stats are wrong for a start.

Ok provide the right stats about child molestation in Telford

Oh and you didn't answer my second question... surprise!!!! 🫢

The way I see it is like this. The issue is men. Adding More men , many of them traumatised, that have gone through God knows what, with possible metal health issues, that are treated like shit and being told how unwanted they are , with no real supervision , support or input …. Is that really a good idea?

Calling an entire culture disgusting is not only grossly offensive it ignores that the vast majority of rapists and child abusers in the UK are white.

And you think there was just one male rapist in the country? How delusional.

If you make a claim, you need to provide the stats to prove your claim, not me.

Because we have been taught to be tolerant and accepting and that diversity is good. We are stuck with the men who are born here….why accept that it’s fine for men in boats with no papers who have travelled through many safe countries are to be welcomed when they come from a culture that has no respect for women and no respect for Western values?

Which part of OP's post says men in boats should be welcomed?

Those two white blokes who adopted a baby and raped him to death - not a single eyelid batted.

Epsom - not even any evidence of a crime yet the pitchforks were out.

White disgusting men getting away with the worst. Tale as old as time.

Of course the media reports white men rape cases. I read about them often in newspapers. The difference is that the illegal migrants who rape and abuse women have forced their way into this country, are living at our expense, and have very poor ideas on how women should be treated. Why do you think it should NOT be reported. They are all disgusting perverts and criminals, no matter where they were born and what colour their skin.

Why is there more focus on non British rapes? Well the obvious difference is that we can't deport British born rapists but we can deport non-British ones and block sex offenders' asylum applications so there is a media and political drive to act on this. Rightly.

Assuming your question is in good faith, I think that it may be easier to convict asylum seekers as well because they tend to commit stranger rapes and assaults - which are often in public so it is easier to get evidence (CCTV, witnesses etc). Native abusers have homes, families and social connections that offer them more cover and power.

Conversely, it is well established that protecting ethnic groups and not wanting to appear racist are key factors in enabling grooming gangs and violent offenders like the men in Nottingham and Southport. (I am probably being racist by not remembering how to spell their names and not caring either).

ETA that 'evil and badness exist everywhere' yes but cultures that have child marriage, FGM, ban women from education, compulsory hijab and widespread misogyny are more evil and bad.

Robert Jenrick made some statements about 6ish months ago and he announced a couple of figures about sexual crimes among immigrants. The BBC Fact Checking Unit (I think that is what it is called) examined the data and said he had misunderstood it. One figure he quoted was definitely wrong and the other one was possibly right but there was no way anyone could be sure from the data. It is easy to misunderstand.

Because the violent men are more vocal and visible. Plenty of people (particularly women) care about all victims of rape regardless of their attackers ethnicity or nationality. But the vocal minority don’t actually care about women, they just want a cover for their racism.

2 in every 5 of the people arrested in the 2024 riots had previously been reported for domestic abuse.

I’ve never seen any decent stats regarding uk rapists and sexual abusers. I’ve only seen stats based on convicted offenders which isn’t much use at all.

I also find this discussion exhausting and confusing because of the use of terms without defining them or being specific. Everyone ends up talking at cross purposes.

'British', 'asylum seeker', 'immigrant', 'brown-skinned' - you can be a British brown-skinned immigrant. Who are we talking about exactly? Do French banking executives in the city of London commit sexual assault at the same rate as Afghan asylum seekers? Both are immigrants.