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AIBU to be astounded at people’s shamelessness?

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Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:09

On a train home from work. Girl came and sat next to me (looked around 18-22) started scrolling TikTok at mid-volume. I politely asked “excuse me do you have any headphones?” She said she didn’t so I asked if she would turn the volume down so we didn’t all have to listen.

That lasted around 30 seconds before she started again. After another 5-10 minutes I asked again, “excuse me could you turn the volume down so we don’t all have to hear it”, she just looked at me blankly, made a quick phone call then carried on scrolling at an even louder volume. Loads of other people in the carriage but no one said anything. I didn’t bother again as it was now clear what the outcome would be.

How have we got to the point where someone can have their antisocial behaviour pointed out to them twice, but just carry on regardless? When did people become so brazen?

PS I don’t want to hear “just bring your own headphones” because that doesn’t address the complete lack of respect for other people.

OP posts:
Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · 08/04/2026 15:15

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 15:08

“It’s not exactly harming anyone to scroll through some TikTok’s is it.”

Er, yes it is - it’s called noise pollution and antisocial behaviour. Trying to seat peacefully or read a book etc is impossible with that constant change in noise going on next to you.

wow that’s dramatic

suburburban · 08/04/2026 15:23

Boomboomi · 08/04/2026 13:26

this is why i hate using public transport.
its a real shame because as a child I was told to be considerate and i also insisted that my now grown up dc do the same .
how has this come about culturally?
My dc was in Japan recently and its seen , in some areas, to be very rude to talk on th e phone in public! Good for them .

It is rude

why does everyone else want to hear your call and private information

keep it brief or text

suburburban · 08/04/2026 15:30

smallglassbottle · 08/04/2026 09:31

Has it got worse since phone manufacturers got rid of the headphone jack? I think everything has to be Bluetooth now. I'm not making excuses, I just wonder if it's contributing to the problem.

Yes I think so

Waterdust · 08/04/2026 16:00

Parents dont raise kids into adults anymore, some parents think technology and screens do the job for them.
And this is the results.

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 16:04

Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · 08/04/2026 15:15

wow that’s dramatic

Dramatic? In what way?

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frozendaisy · 08/04/2026 16:07

Waterdust · 08/04/2026 16:00

Parents dont raise kids into adults anymore, some parents think technology and screens do the job for them.
And this is the results.

What about the adults who are too old to have been raised by technology? Whose fault is it then?

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 08/04/2026 16:15

ilovepixie · 07/04/2026 18:22

Because people these days are self entitled, selfish twats.

Second post nailed it

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 08/04/2026 16:17

Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · 08/04/2026 15:15

wow that’s dramatic

Its called "being honest"

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 08/04/2026 16:27

Saw a wonderful suggestion on Threads about this yesterday.

Start farting.

rwalker · 08/04/2026 16:34

I’m gutted for you that no one joined in

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 16:48

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 08/04/2026 16:17

Its called "being honest"

I’m still bemused about what is dramatic about stating it’s noise pollution and antisocial behaviour - please “be honest” and tell me.

OP posts:
Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 17:22

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 16:48

I’m still bemused about what is dramatic about stating it’s noise pollution and antisocial behaviour - please “be honest” and tell me.

Sorry @ByQuaintAzureWasp, thought I was replying to the other poster!

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rosycheex · 08/04/2026 17:26

I’ve thought of carrying an indelible ink pen and brushing against them as I pass - petty but 🤷‍♀️

auserna · 08/04/2026 17:26

Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · 08/04/2026 15:15

wow that’s dramatic

It's entirely true.

Nosejobnelly · 08/04/2026 17:28

Happens all the time. I was in a hospital waiting room today - very quiet, many people w cancer (not me thankfully) and some woman w phone on full blast.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 08/04/2026 17:31

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

I have to say it’s ALWAYS young women who plonk themselves in the first available seats on the bus - the disabled/priority ones.
Someone will probably now tell me that they have hidden disabilities. All of them.
Then I have to wonder why I have literally never seen any young man doing this.

And I use buses a lot.

oviraptor21 · 08/04/2026 17:31

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

I suspect the OP would have said exactly the same about a man twattishly playing TikTok videos - the only difference would be that she wouldn't risk asking him to turn them down.

auserna · 08/04/2026 17:34

Nosejobnelly · 08/04/2026 17:28

Happens all the time. I was in a hospital waiting room today - very quiet, many people w cancer (not me thankfully) and some woman w phone on full blast.

There should be a fine for that sort of behaviour.

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 17:35

oviraptor21 · 08/04/2026 17:31

I suspect the OP would have said exactly the same about a man twattishly playing TikTok videos - the only difference would be that she wouldn't risk asking him to turn them down.

Entirely true! I have actually asked men a few times, only the ones that don’t look too scary which is a sad state of affairs in itself.

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Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 17:38

Nosejobnelly · 08/04/2026 17:28

Happens all the time. I was in a hospital waiting room today - very quiet, many people w cancer (not me thankfully) and some woman w phone on full blast.

That’s terrible. I’d hope though that if she was asked to turn it down she would have.

That’s the real issue I posted about- not the noise itself but the refusal to stop after being asked to turn it down.

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Ochtawa · 08/04/2026 17:41

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 08/04/2026 13:42

I'm not condoning behaviour but people were walking round with stereos the size of washing machines on their shoulders in the 70s/80s. It's certainly nothing new that people can be inconsiderate.

Noise pollution is also certainly down to perception. I would much prefer to listen to teenagers music than the details of a hospital appointment talked about by pensioners

People had to make a deliberate choice to carry around boom boxes though. Not so with phones - they're everywhere and everyone has one.

Normal conversation from pensioners or otherwise isn't the same - there is a distinct acoustically intrusive quality to electronic noise and general media broadcasting that isn't present in the human voice.

OwlBeThere · 08/04/2026 17:45

Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:09

On a train home from work. Girl came and sat next to me (looked around 18-22) started scrolling TikTok at mid-volume. I politely asked “excuse me do you have any headphones?” She said she didn’t so I asked if she would turn the volume down so we didn’t all have to listen.

That lasted around 30 seconds before she started again. After another 5-10 minutes I asked again, “excuse me could you turn the volume down so we don’t all have to hear it”, she just looked at me blankly, made a quick phone call then carried on scrolling at an even louder volume. Loads of other people in the carriage but no one said anything. I didn’t bother again as it was now clear what the outcome would be.

How have we got to the point where someone can have their antisocial behaviour pointed out to them twice, but just carry on regardless? When did people become so brazen?

PS I don’t want to hear “just bring your own headphones” because that doesn’t address the complete lack of respect for other people.

YABU to act like rude people who don’t care about others are a new thing that hasn’t always been the case.

DY10DY11 · 08/04/2026 17:47

New level of obnoxious behaviour unlocked in the supermarket today. Couple with several children. One child aged about 2 in the trolley with what was some sort of karaoke microphone blasting out Disney tunes that she could also sing into I think. It was an awful noise which I could hear 3 aisles away. I kept trying to move on so they weren't close to me all the way around.

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 17:51

OwlBeThere · 08/04/2026 17:45

YABU to act like rude people who don’t care about others are a new thing that hasn’t always been the case.

That wasn’t what I asked and I didn’t say it was a new thing.

What was new to me personally was someone not responding after being asked twice, in public, to be more considerate - that’s a new low.

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dizzydizzydizzy · 08/04/2026 17:51

ThisOneLife · 07/04/2026 18:34

Sadly it’s not just the young, adults are just as bad. I was on a flight last week and the middle-aged woman had a film on loudspeaker for the whole journey. That she was also non-stop talking to /at her husband the whole time made it even worse. Man on the aisle opposite going the same thing, asked him to put in his earphones but he said he didn’t have any and kept going.

I was about to say much the same….. I was trying to have a nice quiet breakfast in a cafe. There was one other customer- a woman of about 70. She had a 45 minute FaceTime call on full volume! When I complained to her she said it was ok because it was a special occasion because her son had just arrived in Australia. Well, strangely, having a peaceful breakfast in a cafe was supposed to be a special occasion for me.