AIBU to be astounded at people’s shamelessness?

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On a train home from work. Girl came and sat next to me (looked around 18-22) started scrolling TikTok at mid-volume. I politely asked “excuse me do you have any headphones?” She said she didn’t so I asked if she would turn the volume down so we didn’t all have to listen.

That lasted around 30 seconds before she started again. After another 5-10 minutes I asked again, “excuse me could you turn the volume down so we don’t all have to hear it”, she just looked at me blankly, made a quick phone call then carried on scrolling at an even louder volume. Loads of other people in the carriage but no one said anything. I didn’t bother again as it was now clear what the outcome would be.

How have we got to the point where someone can have their antisocial behaviour pointed out to them twice, but just carry on regardless? When did people become so brazen?

PS I don’t want to hear “just bring your own headphones” because that doesn’t address the complete lack of respect for other people.

Some people are just selfish twats.
YANBU.

There are times when people should feel shame. When called out on poor behaviour is probably the number 1 example. So it's an apt description imo.
Not sure the sex of the person is relevant in this situation.

But that’s really no excuse, I’ve had the same pair of £15 non-Apple earbuds for the past few years that I use with my iPhone.

Also people should be able to survive a journey without videos!

I would flog them all publicly. And sign up for the job.
I curse litter louts. They are scum.

YANBU to be annoyed at someone watching loud videos on the train but it sounds like the girl was doing tit for tat by playing it louder each time you asked. And from this follow up post it sounds like you’re quite passive aggressive. Tutting at someone because they put their feet up on the bus? I’m almost not surprised she gave you a defensive mouthful - instead of asking politely you judgementally tutted at her? Based on that I can probably imagine the tone and demeanour in which you asked the girl on the train to turn her videos down was probably the same and she tried to get one up on you.

I dislike loud conversations in a foreign language because I cannot understand what they're saying, preventing me from eavesdropping. I usually ignore them or switch to a silent carriage.

I think to be honest, it’s as much a reflection of the modern world as being mildly irritated by something and then posting it on the Internet to ask strangers whether you’re justified in being irritated…

Some of the conversations you hear are fascinating though.

Difference being I’m not being inconsiderate of other people by posting.
People have the choice whether come on a forum and the choice whether to read this post or not, unfortunately there was no choice for the fellow passengers being subjected to the sound of inane scrolling.

Should women have a free pass to piss everyone else off then?

It’s unfortunate that bus companies can’t restrict that class of person from travel.

YANBU and yes, shame would be the appropriate emotion that these inconsiderate bastards should be feeling.

There are so many under-socialised people about, who just haven’t been brought up properly, it seems. No consideration for others, and abusive if anybody has the temerity to ask them to think of the other people around them.

I’d like to see a campaign on public transport to make this socially unacceptable once again.

take nail clippers next time, take off your shoes and socks and clip your nails, make sure the clippings go her direction, she'll soon move, if she askes you to stop make a deal, STFU and ill put the unions away.

Public transport vehicles should be fitted with jammers so we dont have to listen to other peoples shit 😅

Rubbish. They can be asked perfectly nicely and they'll still do it or ramp it up. They just don't like being told what to do. Employers are experiencing the same problem when these fools manage to get a job. It's a fundamental change in behaviour.

I'm really hoping that this fad of not using headphones in public will end soon. I honestly don't understand it and think it is incredibly ignorant. Given how cheap and readily available headphones are, it is definitely a conscious decision to not use them.
And the same can be said for this new trendy way of speaking on a mobile by holding it away from the ear and down from the face, so that both speakers have to speak loudly to hear each other - why??

YANBU. I HATE this especially now the tube in London has WiFi my previously gloriously quiet commute/reading time I now have to put up
with idiots FaceTiming and watching videos full volume on their phones 😡

Oh give over.

Has it got worse since phone manufacturers got rid of the headphone jack? I think everything has to be Bluetooth now. I'm not making excuses, I just wonder if it's contributing to the problem.

I am always amazed and the ability of people to talk nonsense/chitchat for ages. Often it's in another language so I have no idea what they're saying but am amazed people have that much to say to each other!

It's not a new thing. 20-30 years ago I did a lot of travelling by public transport, and there was a lot of people listening without headphones.
I'd say people are far more likely to have headphones today than back then.

At least headphones are better quality now, years ago you could still hear a tinny version of what people were listening to.

Opera's best imo: start off with a jolly bit of Mozart and work your way up to some Wagner.

I’ve experienced the same and don’t know how people have the nerve to be so blatantly inconsiderate of others in contained spaces like buses and trains.

I agree. I wouldn't dream of inflicting my choice of music or loud conversation on other people.

A couple of bad experiences have totally put me off public transport for anything other than short journeys. At least if I drive, I don't have to put up with other people's racket, and fight the urge to snatch their phones from their hands, hurl them* to the ground and stamp on the fucking things.

*phones, not hands!

There was a bloke watching videos without headphones in a GP waiting room the other day. Not particularly loud - but I just don't understand how people think this is ok.