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AIBU?

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Mothers day argument aibu

222 replies

AliBunny · 15/03/2026 14:17

AIBU?

Not sure if I'm overreacting or being gaslit by my husband.

This morning the kids made breakfast, my husband helped them to make me a cup of tea. We were out of the house by 8.30am to do park run. My husband wore shorts to run with my 5 year old son.

Afterwards we went for a coffee and had 30 mins to kill before a pre planned 11am appointment. As it was cold my husband went and sat in the car whilst I watched the children in the playground. I sent him pics of the kids, joked about how I wasn't tall enough and said 'what a mother's day'. On the way back to the car my 7 year old daughter weed on a tree and got it all over her clothes. I was slightly frustrated getting back to the car but got over it quickly.

Later after we got home I said something about it being mother's day and he said 'yes, don't we all know it'.

I felt really hurt by this comment and he says I'm overreacting. He then ignored me for 30 mins until I got upset and called him out.
It has escalated into an argument and I'm not sure if I'm the crazy one or if he's unreasonable.

OP posts:
PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2026 19:00

Nicewoman · 16/03/2026 18:57

I recall chatting to a friend walking past a Mother’s Day shop window many years ago, where it had chocolates,
flowers, cheap jewellery & perfume. I said it’s all so predictable, boring, same every year. She said to me, well, what else is there? [silence my end]

Also, I have friends who deliberately do zip on Mother’s Day/Father’s Day/Birthdays. They’re not fussed in the slightest if no-one remembers or does stuff with them.

Not everyone wants the marching band & Cleopatra entrance on these so-called special days.

I was kind of with you until that nasty comment at the end.

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2026 19:02

WearyAuldWumman · 16/03/2026 18:38

Yes, but I'm struggling to figure out the logistics of a female managing to widdle on a tree. Behind a tree, possibly.

We used to call them "farmers wees" because my grandfather was a farm hand when he was a lad (1930's) and it was piss in a bush or piss yourself! With a bit of practice, it is possible for women to pee standing up!

NiftyAmberHam · 16/03/2026 19:08

Mother’s Day is a bloody minefield.

I am a mum… 23 year old son lives away from home now. I got a card and a nice phone call. But I’m still sulky because I expected more. But… I was a total brat to my mum when I was that age. One Mother’s Day I neglected to buy even a card and then hastily booked a table for dinner but was particularly ungracious about it. And then she died. So…. Yeah.

it’s a commercial celebration but it’s nice to be nice. And maybe some realistic expectations should be accepted. Cold tea, burnt toast, wilted flowers from toddlers is delightful- especially if someone else cleans up the kitchen destruction!

Sensiblesal · 16/03/2026 19:10

AliBunny · 15/03/2026 15:06

Thanks for those of you offering some balanced views of support. I'm genuinely quite shocked by how cruel people can be on here - had been warned about Mumsnet being a bit wild but this is my first personal experience of it!

Fwiw I agree that I used the term gaslighting very lazily - I suppose it was a shortcut to 'AIBU' (IE he's claiming I'm the crazy unreasonable one when I feel the opposite) 😂

Am trying to rise above and be the bigger person. Just thought mothers day was the one day when he would bite his tongue and be extra kind/considerate!

You started it with the passive aggressive text

WearyAuldWumman · 16/03/2026 19:12

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2026 19:02

We used to call them "farmers wees" because my grandfather was a farm hand when he was a lad (1930's) and it was piss in a bush or piss yourself! With a bit of practice, it is possible for women to pee standing up!

I managed it standing up when I was 11 and had a 6 wk holiday in an Eastern European country where there was a distinct lack of sanitation, but I can't figure the 'on' a tree bit. Behind? No bother.

The ability to manage said function standing up stood me in good stead when I was on student exchanges in the Soviet Union. remembers Soviet facilities and shudders

Nicewoman · 16/03/2026 19:20

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2026 19:00

I was kind of with you until that nasty comment at the end.

Just the truth. Some people don’t want a fuss on Mother’s Day/Father’s Day/birthdays.

on the other hand, some people want the full 9 yards.

I blame Disney etc for hyping up these days just for consumerism/flogging goods and services.

BunnyFrock · 16/03/2026 19:22

Was it in the ensuing argument that he gaslit you? What form did the gaslighting take? I can't detect any gaslighting in the OP.

In fairness, anybody can come here and have a grumble if they're feeling a bit unappreciated and as if the day might have gone better. And it's nice to have a bit of support if there's nobody else to talk to, like a friend who knows you and understands.

But to be really honest this sounds like something and nothing. He helped the kids make you a cup of tea. Presumably they're too young to do anything more 'responsible' I'm personally astonished at anyone who leaves the house at 8.30am to do parkrun on Mother's Day. My gripe if dh had done that would have been to say it was really daft to wear shorts in this cold weather and tell him he would have to tolerate the cold for his stupidity and I would have forced the issue because Mother's Day.

Also in your support, I can understand bobbing behind a tree for a child to have an urgent wee. I've been known to do it myself on particularly long walks with more than a half hour trek to civilisation.
But this is just ordinary everyday stuff. You both got a bit miffed with each other.
I would advise you to not leave the bastard quite yet. Give it a few years and see how it goes.

Historian0111101000 · 16/03/2026 19:33

Honestly, I would have been pissed off.

Why wear shorts when it’s cold and you’re going out? Okay, he wanted to run — but bring a change of clothes, for God’s sake. Don’t end up sitting in the car while your family is out having fun on Mother’s Day.

And I don’t get why people are saying you were passive-aggressive with that text. What kind of Mother’s Day is it when you have to entertain the kids by yourself just because your husband wasn’t responsible about what he was wearing?

And his comment...Maybe the bar is just too low for women these days, but when it comes to Mother’s Day, I’m the queen. My husband makes sure the day is about what I want — and I do the same for him on Father’s Day.

Sensiblesal · 16/03/2026 19:34

SlayBelle · 15/03/2026 19:11

I can’t believe OP is getting called passive aggressive when her husband is the one sitting in the car in his shorts and then having a sulk about Mother’s Day after OP mentions it ONCE.

I bet he’s the kind of man who tries to spoil other people’s (mainly OP’s) special occasions. Does he often get in a mood on birthdays, when the attention is not on him? I expect he’s happy to kiss and make up now, because he’s satisfied he’s already soured Mother’s Day for you. Mission accomplished.

Honestly, some of the replies on here are staggering.

Its mothers day not wives day.

whole lot of threads on here all about expecting husbands to spoil the wife on mothers day. Its mothers day so it should be the kids doing it (with help from dad where possible)

agree with what someone else said hallmark/insta perfect day expectations & the absolute lunacy of mumsnet = bad combo

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2026 19:38

Its mothers day not wives day.

Every fucking year the cool wives come out with this crap

Historian0111101000 · 16/03/2026 19:39

Sensiblesal · 16/03/2026 19:34

Its mothers day not wives day.

whole lot of threads on here all about expecting husbands to spoil the wife on mothers day. Its mothers day so it should be the kids doing it (with help from dad where possible)

agree with what someone else said hallmark/insta perfect day expectations & the absolute lunacy of mumsnet = bad combo

As parents, we spend all of our time putting everyone else first. Why is it suddenly unreasonable to want the one day a year that’s supposed to celebrate mothers to actually be about you?

LuckyBluePanda · 16/03/2026 19:58

Sarah39W · 16/03/2026 17:56

As you’ll see on here most people on here are very black and white and lack any type of understanding AT ALL. I really think this forum is now made up with 80% of people who have nothing better to do than fill their time with shooting down others, no caring or constructive feedback what so ever. To pick up on your daughter having a wee says it all !!

I would say your husband didn’t really mean anything by it but maybe were you expecting a little more from Mother’s Day ? This is something that could quite easily play out in our family. I don’t think he was gas lighting you but maybe a flippant comment and lack of communication if you felt deep down he could have joined you in the park. Or maybe you didn’t care, he made a flippant comment and its caused an argument. Or possibly he was feeling like he should have made more of an effort but didn’t and then felt you called him out on it ? I wouldn’t let it cause an argument though, these things happen and many more will. Maybe sit down and talk when kids are in bed and had time to think about it.

xx

At last somebody who's kind and gives a sensible response.

OneGreySeal · 16/03/2026 20:02

Thingything · 15/03/2026 14:39

What would mothers day oriented activities look like? Genuinely curious as maybe it’s just my family but we all do a card maybe some flowers and otherwise a normal day. Husband offers to cook sometimes but as I like cooking and am better at it having a break from cooking isn’t much of a treat

It would be whatever the mother enjoys doing ??? Seriously do people not know how to give gifts anymore.

OneGreySeal · 16/03/2026 20:04

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2026 19:38

Its mothers day not wives day.

Every fucking year the cool wives come out with this crap

Pickmeishas. Trust me they’re inherently misogynistic and miserable

Namechangerage · 16/03/2026 20:14

AliBunny · 15/03/2026 17:13

Hi everyone, I did not expect this to get anywhere near as much reaction as it did!

To those of you that are mums acknowledging that sometimes it's nice to have a little slice of a day to feel appreciated, thank you.

To just clarify a couple of points:

  • I sent the text as a joke whilst he sat 'cold' in the car (appreciate it may not have appeared as funny to him)
  • He came out with the 'yes, we all know it's mother's day' comment a few hours later - said to my face in a cutting way, not a text.
  • I challenged him on it, said it upset me and he claimed it wasnt meant with any negative connotation. I took myself away for 15 mins, went back and challenged him and he then admitted he did mean it nastily. He then gave me the silent treatment. I sulked. We both sulked.
  • Im not looking for a day off or loads of ££ presents, just a day with a few extra thank yous and maybe the opportunity not to cook/clean up after everyone!

Since posting this, we have both apologised, cheered up and will celebrate with a family cuddle on the sofa and watch last night's gladiators on iPlayer.

P.s. Wild wees in a big, not hugely public park, behind a lot of trees are not something to get so emotional over - totally normal imo!

Why didn’t he do the playground duty while you got to sit warm and cosy in the car?!

Treebaubles · 16/03/2026 20:24

Wild wees are definitely a thing. I’m glad your day ended on a good note.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 16/03/2026 20:30

RightOnTheEdge · 15/03/2026 14:23

Why is it gaslighting? I feel like the word is losing it's meaning, it gets thrown about for any mild disagreement now.

I agree. I don't think people understand the true meaning of the phrase half the time.

I remember about ten years ago the same thing happened with the word abusive. Suddenly every argument or major annoyance in a relationship was someone's partner being 'emotionally abusive' to them.

MyHappyNavyMoose · 16/03/2026 21:08

What do you/did you expect your Mother’s Day to be like? It sounds like you had an ordinary day of parenting … and this is a big issue with Mother’s/Father’s Day. People have really high expectations and many are disappointed by it. You were blessed to have that day even though things didn’t quite go according to plan as you were spending time with your family. You need to determine what the issue was … did you feel as it was Mother’s Day your husband should of been more hands on or is it more of on ongoing issue highlighted by the fact that you thought with it being Mother’s Day it may have been different?

Calliopespa · 16/03/2026 21:14

RightOnTheEdge · 15/03/2026 14:23

Why is it gaslighting? I feel like the word is losing it's meaning, it gets thrown about for any mild disagreement now.

Yeah there is no gaslighting here.

He just picked up on your comment about "what a Mother's Day" as a slightly passive aggressive (sorry to use another over-worked term) whinge.

People will get annoyed by passive aggressive complaints. Not saying I'd have enjoyed standing in the cold or having my dc pee on themselves either, so i can see why you were upset. But linking it to Mother's day was a bit whingy, when she presumably didn't do it on purpose and he had a good reason for sitting in the car.

Arcticienne · 16/03/2026 21:15

Good answer, OP. As I see it the real issue here is the ‘Dad’ who retreats to his cosy car because it’s too cold for him to raise his game and spend 10 minutes in the park with his 7 yo daughter. Sorry - you’ve lumbered yourself with a bit of a tosser. Hey-ho. There’s always Fathers Day to look forward to. DD can make him a card then you can revert to Normal Sunday routine. But for heavens sake - given that you know DD has a waterworks problem - up your game re the splash back.

Alpacajigsaw · 16/03/2026 21:18

So basically the only effort he’d gone to for Mother’s Day was helping the kids make a cup of tea and then basically accused you of going on about MD?

He is a knob. Make sure you do nothing for Father’s Day when it comes

Calliopespa · 16/03/2026 21:26

Alpacajigsaw · 16/03/2026 21:18

So basically the only effort he’d gone to for Mother’s Day was helping the kids make a cup of tea and then basically accused you of going on about MD?

He is a knob. Make sure you do nothing for Father’s Day when it comes

And remember to wear shorts and give DD a biiiiiiig drink before you head out.

BeRealOtter · 16/03/2026 21:43

Mumsnet is actually wild! Every time I read it I cannot believe what some people think is reasonable! Of COURSE on mother's day your husband should organise a card, and perhaps flowers and a few little gifts from your children? Chocolate? A book? Whatever you're in to! Its not a lot to ask. If your children are little. Any time anyone posts on this page about their family not doing anything for them on their birthday/anniversary/mother's day etc its always the same oh why do you care about your birthday, you should be delighted with what you got, blah blah. Grim. Your husband should have made an effort and encouraged your children to do the same and he should have been kinder.

Mistybluebay · 16/03/2026 21:44

Its lovely to receive flowers & a card with appreciative words. Other than that I treat it like a normal day, no fuss expected or required.

Calliopespa · 16/03/2026 22:11

I've had to do a few wild wees myself of late - and I'm not even little.

For me it's more "behind" the tree than "on it" but I suppose there are moments in life where you just manage the best you can and there's no need to get into semantics.😑