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School refusing 3 days off for DS AIBU

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BaronPencil · 03/03/2026 18:07

I suspect I am going to get flamed for this but I genuinely do not know what the right call is.

DS is 14, 15 in the summer, and he hates school. Not in a mild way, he actively resents it. Says it is pointless, says most of the boys mess about anyway but he gets picked up more because he answers back. There is probably some truth in that but he absolutely does not help himself.

He is basically on his last warning behaviour wise. We have had meetings with head of year and deputy head. They have used phrases like final chance, serious concerns about attitude, risk of not being invited back next year if there is no improvement. So yes, thin ice is putting it mildly.

Behaviour issues include:

Constant low level disruption
Talking when teacher is talking
Refusing to move seats when asked
Eye rolling and muttering under his breath
Not handing homework in repeatedly
Detentions for not turning up to detentions
Once told a teacher “this is why no one takes this subject seriously”

There was also an incident last year where he made some stupid misogynistic comments in class about girls being “too emotional” for leadership which got him into a huge amount of trouble. He swears he was joking but it was not funny and I was absolutely furious with him. School took it very seriously. Since then they have him firmly labelled as a problem child I think.

He is not SEN. There is no diagnosis, no learning issue. He just does not like being told what to do and he is not a straight A academic star which I sometimes think is what this particular school really values above everything else. He is capable of good grades but only when he feels like it which is not often.

The only area where he has ever been consistently positive is drama.

He got into acting at 12 through the school drama club. Completely by accident really, a friend dragged him along. He got a part in the school production and something just switched. Teachers were emailing saying how focused he was in rehearsals, how supportive of other cast members. It was like reading about someone else.

We then enrolled him in a local theatre group and he loves it. Properly loves it. He will practise accents in his bedroom, watch performances online, ask for feedback. It is the only thing he puts real effort into without being nagged.

Now he has been cast in a proper local theatre production. Rehearsals are evenings and weekends so that has not interfered with school at all.

But the performances include three weekday matinees in the last week before Easter holidays. So he would miss three full days right before they break up.

His attendance is currently 95 percent. But he is absolutely on his last warning behaviour wise.

I emailed school explaining the opportunity and asking if the absence could be authorised given it is a legitimate production and not just a random day off. I did mention that drama is the only area where he truly excels and that this could be positive for him.

Reply was very clear. No authorised absence for external activities. Policy is policy. If we keep him off it will be recorded as unauthorised absence and may be considered alongside his existing behaviour record.

I did ask whether there was any discretion given it is the last week before holidays and most of the academic content is winding down (yes I know that sounds dismissive). They said learning continues until the final day and expectations apply to all pupils equally.

DS’s view is blunt. He says acting is the only thing he is actually good at and the only reason he bothers trying at anything. He says if we make him miss it we are proving that school matters more to us than he does. He also says school already think he is a lost cause so what difference will three days make.

Part of me thinks he has not exactly earned special favours given his attitude. If anything he should be bending over backwards to show compliance right now not asking for time off. I can already hear people saying natural consequences and maybe that is fair.

But another part of me thinks if the one thing that genuinely motivates him is acting then why would we squash that, especially when school itself introduced him to it in the first place.

We pay a lot for this school because we wanted structure and high standards. I just did not anticipate feeling like the only area my son shines would be treated as irrelevant.

So AIBU to think they could show flexibility even though he is on his last warning and hardly model pupil of the year? Or is this exactly the kind of situation where the answer has to be no because of his behaviour record.

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Nowwarm · 03/03/2026 18:10

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Starfish1021 · 03/03/2026 18:13

So he is at a private school? What are the alternatives if he is asked to leave? I mean his attitude stinks and one of the most highly valued things about private school is the lack of pupil disruptions so I wouldn't be surprised if the private school want to boot him out. He does not sound happy and may actually thrive in a state school

ColdAsAWitches · 03/03/2026 18:13

Quite honestly, I think the school is right. Policy is policy, and if anyone deserves special favours, it's not going to be the student that treats them with contempt.

That said, id just take him out of school those days. It obviously means a lot to him, and will be more beneficial to him than school.

EricTheHalfASleeve · 03/03/2026 18:15

FAFO. He's behaved badly towards the school, why should they treat him more favourably to other children?

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 03/03/2026 18:16

Yabu. He’s behaved badly why should he get special treatment when he’s not even tried?

SlashBeef · 03/03/2026 18:16

More money than sense! I can't understand pouring money into a school that your child actively hates and it sounds like they aren't fond of him either.
However I expect if you do let him have the days off they'll still "invite" him back next year because they'll want the fees.

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HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 03/03/2026 18:18

School may be right to apply policies consistently, but it's a terrible policy.

All else being equal, I'd let him miss school and find him a place at a different school for next year. Hopefully one better suited to him!

My main concern would be if he's in the first year of GCSEs. It's very hard to change school between years 10 and 11, and usually grades will suffer for it.

YourHeartyFatball · 03/03/2026 18:18

It will be a blanket policy for the school. I’d just take the unauthorised absence.

BigYellowBus · 03/03/2026 18:19

SlashBeef · 03/03/2026 18:16

More money than sense! I can't understand pouring money into a school that your child actively hates and it sounds like they aren't fond of him either.
However I expect if you do let him have the days off they'll still "invite" him back next year because they'll want the fees.

Not necessarily. Doesn't sound as if he's going to improve their exam statstics

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 18:19

Way to bury the lede, Op.

NewTricks2026 · 03/03/2026 18:19

If it’s an independent school they will be worried about their results and be looking for that final reason to get him out before exams.

I wouldn’t risk it unless he is prepared to move schools before GCSE’s.

Moll2020 · 03/03/2026 18:21

I appreciate his behaviour has been awful but surely as this is for something positive the school can cut some slack. Ok, the absence will be unauthorised but shouldn’t be used against your son alongside his behaviour record. That’s not going to help with his relationship with school. Is it worth asking for a meeting with the HT?

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 18:21

I am surprised that a local theatre group is casting a school aged child in a production which has matinees during term time. Especially as he probably has a longer holiday than a state school pupil.

Faythe · 03/03/2026 18:22

What have you done to stop him being so disrespectful towards his teachers? My kids would be given no quarter if I was told they behaved like that in school.

whatisheupto · 03/03/2026 18:22

Well he has to miss those days otherwise the theatre production will be totally screwed, no?
You will have to have unauthorised absence, you've got no choice. You can't let the entire cast and crew down!

MrsJPBP · 03/03/2026 18:23

IMO, there’s two separate issues here.

One is the time off. Given drama is his passion and it’s a proper opportunity I would allow him the time off. It’s 3 days. School won’t authorise it, so what? They’re not going to chuck him out over that and if they do it wouldn’t be the worst thing from what you’ve said.

The bigger issue is what you’re actually doing to address your son’s poor behaviour, misogyny and outright disrespect. Not just to staff but to other pupils and yourselves - you’re paying a huge amount for his privileged education. Which he clearly neither appreciates nor understands the position he’s in. Your post massively underplays how he’s behaving and you’re excusing it. Wha have you done about it other than be a bit cross? So what if he doesn’t like school, we all have to go through it and what are the consequences for him for all of this? I’d be moving him to a state school, putting in some discipline and give him a wake up call.

Faythe · 03/03/2026 18:24

whatisheupto · 03/03/2026 18:22

Well he has to miss those days otherwise the theatre production will be totally screwed, no?
You will have to have unauthorised absence, you've got no choice. You can't let the entire cast and crew down!

They can just cast someone else. And that can be a lesson to him... natural consequences for shocking behaviour.

Midlifecrisisaverted · 03/03/2026 18:24

Give him the opportunity to do something he loves. I bet most famous actors have a similar story! He's showing disinterest because he's bored. I'd take him out of school but explain he needs to give something back in return and this includes pulling his socks up. School isn't designed for every kid but every kid is expexted to fit into it.

If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will spend its whole life thinking it is stupid ...

Mudflaps · 03/03/2026 18:24

"Labelled as a problem", he is a problem without question. His behaviour will have impacted on other students and that is what the school will be concerned with. That said, the school does not suit your child so why haven't you found somewhere more fitting?

DashItAll · 03/03/2026 18:25

I understand and agree with the school's policy.
But it seems that this is something that he really enjoys and works hard at, so I'd take the unauthorised absences but possibly tie it in with an expectation that he has to sort his behaviour out.

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 18:25

Why does he need full days? Can he go to school in the morning and leave after the first 2-3 periods?

lllamaDrama · 03/03/2026 18:26

I think you’ve played your hand badly Op! You had a perfect opportunity to say to ds “toe the line, buck your ideas up - or else school won’t approve the time off for your play”.

And now he’s trying to emotionally blackmail you with the “you don’t care about me that’s why you won’t let me” card? I wouldn’t stand for such a pathetic attempt at a guilt trip from my dd15! She’d be getting a message of tough love: “you were warned that playing up at school would have consequences. And here we are, this is on YOU - you could have created goodwill at school so if I let you take time off you wouldn’t be kicked out. But now here we are. You put yourself here; I would love to dig you out of the mess but I can’t. So the choice is: you take the time off but the you leave the school and we take our chances on a transfer mid GcSE to a state school, and believe me most decent schools won’t accept pupils in Y10 as they have started gcse and its took difficult to catch up. Or I enroll you in online home schooling. Or you miss your play and you stay at school. You choose.”

The way you wrote the OP sounds like you have indulged him, you’ve let him get away with very poor and rude and lazy behaviour and he HAS to take the consequences.

idontknowwhattodo2026 · 03/03/2026 18:27

I thought school would authorise an absence for an opportunity relating to a school subject!
But I would let him be in the theatre production and keep the drama separate from behaviour and consequences.

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 18:27

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 03/03/2026 18:18

School may be right to apply policies consistently, but it's a terrible policy.

All else being equal, I'd let him miss school and find him a place at a different school for next year. Hopefully one better suited to him!

My main concern would be if he's in the first year of GCSEs. It's very hard to change school between years 10 and 11, and usually grades will suffer for it.

If he’s 15 in the summer then yes, he’s in the first year of GCSEs

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