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School refusing 3 days off for DS AIBU

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BaronPencil · 03/03/2026 18:07

I suspect I am going to get flamed for this but I genuinely do not know what the right call is.

DS is 14, 15 in the summer, and he hates school. Not in a mild way, he actively resents it. Says it is pointless, says most of the boys mess about anyway but he gets picked up more because he answers back. There is probably some truth in that but he absolutely does not help himself.

He is basically on his last warning behaviour wise. We have had meetings with head of year and deputy head. They have used phrases like final chance, serious concerns about attitude, risk of not being invited back next year if there is no improvement. So yes, thin ice is putting it mildly.

Behaviour issues include:

Constant low level disruption
Talking when teacher is talking
Refusing to move seats when asked
Eye rolling and muttering under his breath
Not handing homework in repeatedly
Detentions for not turning up to detentions
Once told a teacher “this is why no one takes this subject seriously”

There was also an incident last year where he made some stupid misogynistic comments in class about girls being “too emotional” for leadership which got him into a huge amount of trouble. He swears he was joking but it was not funny and I was absolutely furious with him. School took it very seriously. Since then they have him firmly labelled as a problem child I think.

He is not SEN. There is no diagnosis, no learning issue. He just does not like being told what to do and he is not a straight A academic star which I sometimes think is what this particular school really values above everything else. He is capable of good grades but only when he feels like it which is not often.

The only area where he has ever been consistently positive is drama.

He got into acting at 12 through the school drama club. Completely by accident really, a friend dragged him along. He got a part in the school production and something just switched. Teachers were emailing saying how focused he was in rehearsals, how supportive of other cast members. It was like reading about someone else.

We then enrolled him in a local theatre group and he loves it. Properly loves it. He will practise accents in his bedroom, watch performances online, ask for feedback. It is the only thing he puts real effort into without being nagged.

Now he has been cast in a proper local theatre production. Rehearsals are evenings and weekends so that has not interfered with school at all.

But the performances include three weekday matinees in the last week before Easter holidays. So he would miss three full days right before they break up.

His attendance is currently 95 percent. But he is absolutely on his last warning behaviour wise.

I emailed school explaining the opportunity and asking if the absence could be authorised given it is a legitimate production and not just a random day off. I did mention that drama is the only area where he truly excels and that this could be positive for him.

Reply was very clear. No authorised absence for external activities. Policy is policy. If we keep him off it will be recorded as unauthorised absence and may be considered alongside his existing behaviour record.

I did ask whether there was any discretion given it is the last week before holidays and most of the academic content is winding down (yes I know that sounds dismissive). They said learning continues until the final day and expectations apply to all pupils equally.

DS’s view is blunt. He says acting is the only thing he is actually good at and the only reason he bothers trying at anything. He says if we make him miss it we are proving that school matters more to us than he does. He also says school already think he is a lost cause so what difference will three days make.

Part of me thinks he has not exactly earned special favours given his attitude. If anything he should be bending over backwards to show compliance right now not asking for time off. I can already hear people saying natural consequences and maybe that is fair.

But another part of me thinks if the one thing that genuinely motivates him is acting then why would we squash that, especially when school itself introduced him to it in the first place.

We pay a lot for this school because we wanted structure and high standards. I just did not anticipate feeling like the only area my son shines would be treated as irrelevant.

So AIBU to think they could show flexibility even though he is on his last warning and hardly model pupil of the year? Or is this exactly the kind of situation where the answer has to be no because of his behaviour record.

OP posts:
Amira83 · 03/03/2026 18:27

If he were my son I would be fully supporting him taking the 3 days of for the theatre production. Hes found something hes great at and enjoys it aswel, I dont know him but even im happy for him. Its an opportunity not to be missed. Your his mother, you know what's best for him, not the school.

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 03/03/2026 18:27

Is it a professional production because it’s odd an amateur one is casting school kids and putting performances on in school time. Will he need a performance license for it? School will have to sign it if so

lllamaDrama · 03/03/2026 18:27

idontknowwhattodo2026 · 03/03/2026 18:27

I thought school would authorise an absence for an opportunity relating to a school subject!
But I would let him be in the theatre production and keep the drama separate from behaviour and consequences.

But he’s on last-chance at school, they might exclude him for non attendance - depends on the school policy.

VividDeer · 03/03/2026 18:28

Just take it as unauthorised, simple

Seelybe · 03/03/2026 18:28

@BaronPencil in your shoes I'd be inclined to let him do it to boost his self esteem and accept the unauthorised absence.
BUT there would be a high risk of this as a private school declining to keep him on. In which case he would probably need to start year 10 again at another school.
I would put all of that to your DS and let him choose.
As you're paying - have you considered online school? Could that be an option?

FakeTwix · 03/03/2026 18:28

Re the theatre thing I would just take him out for those three days.

But.

He sounds deeply unpleasant and difficult to be around. He sounds like he is arrogant and rude. I wouldn't think his future looks bright at all with his attitude.

You sound too accepting of his anti social and unacceptable behaviour. And not remotely worried enough about the impacts of his poor attitude on other people.

Worrying about absence recording is misplaced energy imo.

REDB99 · 03/03/2026 18:29

Just move schools?

if you’re paying private look for one with a focus on the arts etc

It’s great your son has found something he loves but he sounds like a pretty unpleasant child to have to try and teach. Like others I’m struggling to understand why you’re persevering with this school when your son has such a poor attitude towards it.

WearyAuldWumman · 03/03/2026 18:29

whatisheupto · 03/03/2026 18:22

Well he has to miss those days otherwise the theatre production will be totally screwed, no?
You will have to have unauthorised absence, you've got no choice. You can't let the entire cast and crew down!

I'm assuming that he has an understudy?

I actually think that the theatre production might be more productive for the OP's son, to be honest. I'm baffled that she's paying for him to attend a school that he hates. A fresh start at a state school might be the best thing for him.

Having said that, as a retired state secondary school teacher I'm wondering why the OP and her husband haven't done more to address their son's behaviour: "most of the boys mess about anyway but he gets picked up more because he answers back."

So "most of the boys mess about" [I doubt it] but "he answers back"... as if that's nothing?

Ninerainbows · 03/03/2026 18:31

You're wasting your money. At the very least find a private that is more arts and drama focused or a state that is more sympathetic towards kids who are better at sport and drama than English and Maths. I'd let him do the performance - if he is serious about it then it'll look good on his résumé.

theemmadilemma · 03/03/2026 18:31

I’m very ‘consequences for actions’ usually.

But I say let him have the time off and just see what happens. He’s been consistent with the acting. Let him see it through.

The consequences with school will be what are.

Seashor · 03/03/2026 18:32

If this was my child I would not allow him to participate in the show due to his behaviour at school.
We all do things we don’t want to do, we get on with it and make the best of it. What we don’t do is behave like a spoilt brat and if we do then there should be consequences for our behaviour not rewards.

thanks2 · 03/03/2026 18:32

if you are in the Uk when my daughter did this her stage school applied to someone in the council from memory for approval as a child needs a work permit or something? I think they can override the school. 95% is Ok ... my son had under 90% due to illness and council said they can't overide school at that level.
ask the drama school - or join a stage agency and ask them to see if they can sort.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 03/03/2026 18:33

There is no way I'd be paying for him to attend this school!
Find a state school with a good drama department and move him!
And I would let him stay off those days on the condition thst he bucks his ideas up!

Lemonademoney · 03/03/2026 18:34

Behaviour aside - there is often the opportunity to authorise absences for extracurricular activities such as sporting competitions etc that fall within the school day so I’m surprised this hasn’t been offered as a potential option… our school has a couple of children who are classed as high achievers in their chosen sport/dance etc and time off is permitted and coded accordingly.

nam3c4ang3 · 03/03/2026 18:34

Sorry OP - what have you done to address your sons absolutely appalling behaviour? If he was in my kids school - he would absolutely be asked to leave he sounds quite disruptive. I reckon give him the three days - let the school do what they have to (ask him to leave or whatever - tbf he does not sound like he suits this school anyway!) - then look for an alternative school - more arts focused.

justdontrelateanymore · 03/03/2026 18:34

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😂 I am with you.... OP waits until the very end to drop in the 'btw he is privately educated' 😆

No one would buy a pair of shoes that didn't fit, or a car that didn't meet need .. but oh, yes, let's spend years paying for private education when my child isn't thriving there 🙄

itsgettingweird · 03/03/2026 18:35

It’s a private school.

unauthorised absense isn’t going to get you referred to the la for a fine.

And afaik I’ve never known any state school refuse to authorise absense for performance or competition in sport before so I’m guessing a lot of this is due to his attitude and the fact the are making a point.

I would seriously look at alternatives for him. If you can afford private fees then how about spending the money on inter high or another online provider?

really what you need is him to grow up but get an education for being able to attend college. Where he gets that is irrelevant and right now school is t working for him or the school.

MmeWorthington · 03/03/2026 18:35

Why does he have to have the whole day off for a matinee?

He can go in in the morning, then check out at lunch time.

It may be that understand how working hard brings results could be good for his attitude.

He won’t be able to muck about as a junior cast member, and he might learn that to work in theatre you need to work very hard, take direction, take constructive criticism, be very disciplined, work as a team etc.

NorrisToenail · 03/03/2026 18:35

Take the unauthorised absence and let him do the shows.

But ffs discipline your child, he sounds like a little shit tbh. I'm not surprised school are fed up with him

Anyahyacinth · 03/03/2026 18:36

There are so many schools for the performing arts or who manage discipline creatively (students control etc..)…why leave him to fail at the current school?

BaronPencil · 03/03/2026 18:36

DH and both his older brothers went to this school (one is now at uni, other has graduated) and DS has been at the feeder school since primary then moved to this school so DH didn't want to move him as he said it would be “moving the problem” which I agree to some extend. And now he's in Y10 so he's doing his options which he won't get at another private school or state as he'll get whatever is spare and I fear that would have a catastrophic effect and he'll pass nothing rather than just performing arts.

To the poster saying you're surprised they're casting him in term time - DS’s school finishes on the day before good Friday the same as other schools round here but they go back a week later than those schools, the theatre is in a different area (but still local) and their schools finish a week before as it's a different LA.

OP posts:
Lookskywalker · 03/03/2026 18:40

Can he go in for a half day?

Pearlstillsinging · 03/03/2026 18:40

School could authorise his absence as 'education off site', which imo is what they should do.
I may have missed it but I'm not sure why some pp think he is at a fee-paying school. However if he is you have the upper hand here.
It doesn't sound as if this school is suitable for him, so I would consider moving him at the end of the year anyway.

Hedgehogsaremyjam · 03/03/2026 18:41

Hasn't he got a month to prove to you and the school that he has changed his attitude and is respectful towards his education and therefore deserves you allowing him this opportunity??

AluckyEllie · 03/03/2026 18:41

I’d take him out and let him do the production. However, you are basically setting fire to thousands of pounds having him go to a school he is such a bad fit at!