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School refusing 3 days off for DS AIBU

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BaronPencil · 03/03/2026 18:07

I suspect I am going to get flamed for this but I genuinely do not know what the right call is.

DS is 14, 15 in the summer, and he hates school. Not in a mild way, he actively resents it. Says it is pointless, says most of the boys mess about anyway but he gets picked up more because he answers back. There is probably some truth in that but he absolutely does not help himself.

He is basically on his last warning behaviour wise. We have had meetings with head of year and deputy head. They have used phrases like final chance, serious concerns about attitude, risk of not being invited back next year if there is no improvement. So yes, thin ice is putting it mildly.

Behaviour issues include:

Constant low level disruption
Talking when teacher is talking
Refusing to move seats when asked
Eye rolling and muttering under his breath
Not handing homework in repeatedly
Detentions for not turning up to detentions
Once told a teacher “this is why no one takes this subject seriously”

There was also an incident last year where he made some stupid misogynistic comments in class about girls being “too emotional” for leadership which got him into a huge amount of trouble. He swears he was joking but it was not funny and I was absolutely furious with him. School took it very seriously. Since then they have him firmly labelled as a problem child I think.

He is not SEN. There is no diagnosis, no learning issue. He just does not like being told what to do and he is not a straight A academic star which I sometimes think is what this particular school really values above everything else. He is capable of good grades but only when he feels like it which is not often.

The only area where he has ever been consistently positive is drama.

He got into acting at 12 through the school drama club. Completely by accident really, a friend dragged him along. He got a part in the school production and something just switched. Teachers were emailing saying how focused he was in rehearsals, how supportive of other cast members. It was like reading about someone else.

We then enrolled him in a local theatre group and he loves it. Properly loves it. He will practise accents in his bedroom, watch performances online, ask for feedback. It is the only thing he puts real effort into without being nagged.

Now he has been cast in a proper local theatre production. Rehearsals are evenings and weekends so that has not interfered with school at all.

But the performances include three weekday matinees in the last week before Easter holidays. So he would miss three full days right before they break up.

His attendance is currently 95 percent. But he is absolutely on his last warning behaviour wise.

I emailed school explaining the opportunity and asking if the absence could be authorised given it is a legitimate production and not just a random day off. I did mention that drama is the only area where he truly excels and that this could be positive for him.

Reply was very clear. No authorised absence for external activities. Policy is policy. If we keep him off it will be recorded as unauthorised absence and may be considered alongside his existing behaviour record.

I did ask whether there was any discretion given it is the last week before holidays and most of the academic content is winding down (yes I know that sounds dismissive). They said learning continues until the final day and expectations apply to all pupils equally.

DS’s view is blunt. He says acting is the only thing he is actually good at and the only reason he bothers trying at anything. He says if we make him miss it we are proving that school matters more to us than he does. He also says school already think he is a lost cause so what difference will three days make.

Part of me thinks he has not exactly earned special favours given his attitude. If anything he should be bending over backwards to show compliance right now not asking for time off. I can already hear people saying natural consequences and maybe that is fair.

But another part of me thinks if the one thing that genuinely motivates him is acting then why would we squash that, especially when school itself introduced him to it in the first place.

We pay a lot for this school because we wanted structure and high standards. I just did not anticipate feeling like the only area my son shines would be treated as irrelevant.

So AIBU to think they could show flexibility even though he is on his last warning and hardly model pupil of the year? Or is this exactly the kind of situation where the answer has to be no because of his behaviour record.

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LaurieFairyCake · 03/03/2026 19:11

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BloominNora · 03/03/2026 19:08

His behaviour stems from somewhere though - it's unrealistic to expect a 14 / 15 year old to behave well when they are fundamentally unhappy - they don't have the emotional intelligence to figure out how to cope with it, so it displays in poor behaviour.

Generally, improving behaviour among troubled teens starts with finding something that grabs their interest and nurturing it - and it seems like it is drama for the OPs son.

To deprive him of an opportunity which could help him to pull himself out of that behaviour spiral as a punishment would be churlish and counterproductive.

I'm inclined to agree, and also since the school is clearly a bad fit for him, I'm also inclined to say take the absence and let them expel him so he's no longer their problem and he can find an alternative school that works better for him, since that's in everyone's interests and probably where he's heading anyway even if this issue gets resolved.

I'm just saying that his horrible behaviour towards other people is the complicating factor here and the reason it's not completely straightforward. I can see OP's dilemma.

Pinkladyapplepie · 03/03/2026 19:12

If your son is at a private school what does it matter if the absence is unauthorised? You can take kids on holiday whenever you want so what's the difference?
I am a teacher and in state school obviously attendance the be all and end all, which is all around ofsted imo. Let you son focus on what he loves, additionally I would stop paying for a school he doesn't like. Waste of money.

properidiot · 03/03/2026 19:12

I think the school is BVU not allowing him the time off. So many times I have seen children who are given time off school for athletics or sports meets so I see absolutely no difference with this. He must be talented! I would 100% tell the school he will be going to the theatre on those days.

I agree with pps that the theatre opportunity and the behaviour are two very different things and it is wholly unfair of the school to treat it this way.

I'd be looking around at other schools. He hates it there anyway as you've said, perhaps a different school will be better for him. Two years is a long time to spend in a school he hates. I would go and view different schools and then take a risk and move him.

everypageisempty · 03/03/2026 19:12

Let them toss him out.

Do the production. But... you need to do better as a parent. His behaviour is absolutely NOT on and completely unfair to everyone else in his classes and his teachers. YOu need to start pulling every single privilege he has if he behaves like any of the things you've listed again, including taking him to drama clubs.

Distancefriend · 03/03/2026 19:14

I was so surprised when you said you were paying for private school!
I’d be pissed off as a parent if I was also paying and my child’s learning was being disrupted.
I’d 100 percent be moving him to a state school.
I’d also let him have the time off to do the production

Applecup · 03/03/2026 19:14

Son sounds like a complete pain in the arse. I should imagine the school are looking for any excuse to get rid of him. Maybe you should home school him.

babyproblems · 03/03/2026 19:14

MrsJPBP · 03/03/2026 18:23

IMO, there’s two separate issues here.

One is the time off. Given drama is his passion and it’s a proper opportunity I would allow him the time off. It’s 3 days. School won’t authorise it, so what? They’re not going to chuck him out over that and if they do it wouldn’t be the worst thing from what you’ve said.

The bigger issue is what you’re actually doing to address your son’s poor behaviour, misogyny and outright disrespect. Not just to staff but to other pupils and yourselves - you’re paying a huge amount for his privileged education. Which he clearly neither appreciates nor understands the position he’s in. Your post massively underplays how he’s behaving and you’re excusing it. Wha have you done about it other than be a bit cross? So what if he doesn’t like school, we all have to go through it and what are the consequences for him for all of this? I’d be moving him to a state school, putting in some discipline and give him a wake up call.

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Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:15

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 03/03/2026 18:27

Is it a professional production because it’s odd an amateur one is casting school kids and putting performances on in school time. Will he need a performance license for it? School will have to sign it if so

Yes, I was going to say the same. They're not allowed to take children out of school.

Onmytod24 · 03/03/2026 19:15

Of course he must take part in this production. Take the unauthorised absence. But don’t let your son think he’s got away with his behaviour follow up on a weekly basis with the school and set up reward system at home that is to do with reducing these instances of low-level Disruption. But your husband is wrong and his phrase ‘you’re only moving the problem’means he sees your son is the problem.that’s so negative. People can change. It sounds your paying loads for the school and it doesn’t provide the drama that he thrives on. I’d start looking for a state school straight away and let him know that

Coconutter24 · 03/03/2026 19:15

So your child is a problem child and behaves horrendously, so much he’s on his last warning yet you think he should be shown flexibility to do something fun outside of school?
Surely you should he concentrating on correcting his attitude and behaviour and not brushing it off. No wonder he’s the way he is if you’re so blasé about it

SeeTheSummerSunIsShining · 03/03/2026 19:16

If drama is the only thing motivating him I’d embrace it; I’d also talk to him about how he would feel about changing schools, and whether that would change his attitude at all.

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:16

@MrsJPBP very good points.
It's unbelievable, really.

sundayvibeswig22 · 03/03/2026 19:18

He’s got 3/4 weeks to improve his behaviour and show how much it matters to him.

id let him do it though if it’s his passion. Schools should be more flexible, especially a private one. I’d move him before he’s chucked out.

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 19:18

PP saying “ just let the school expel him” do realise that DS is in year 10 and halfway through GCSEs, right??

latetothefisting · 03/03/2026 19:18

He clearly hasn't learnt anything, has he, given instead of understanding why poor behaviour = consequence of people not wanting to do favours for you, he's thrown it back on blaming you/the school/anyone else rather than accept the consequences of his own actions.

Acting might be the only thing HE shines in and thinks is relevant - what about the kids in his class for whom maths or english or sports are 'their' acting, which is constantly disrupted by his behaviour?

I agree with lots of the other posters in that it really does not seem like this school is a good fit for him. If you choose a private school you have to accept they have more power over whether they accept pupils than a state school -
If they decide 3 unauthorised absences is the straw that broke the camel's back then they are within their rights to kick him out, so that's a risk you have to take.

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:19

Does he suddenly switch off the disrespect, rudeness and misogyny when he's doing drama?.

Whaleandsnail6 · 03/03/2026 19:19

I think you need to really research your options if you do agree to the production for the possibility he does get kicked out of school

What alternative schools have space for the subjects he wants?

Could you home school if he doesn't get into a school for year 11?

Is moving school just going to move the crappy behaviour?

He needs to know that life isn't only about what you actually enjoy but you have to treat people with respect and do things you may not want to as an adult in the world of work.

It's a tricky one.

CheeseyOnionPie · 03/03/2026 19:19

The school is right. Why should a pupil who disrupts the class for others be given special privileges? He simply hasn’t done anything to earn their good favour.

He’s learning the hard way that you can’t ask for favours when you spend your time doing all you can to make life and learning hard for others.

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:20

Give the staff and the other kids a break and move schools, seriously.

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 19:20

Can he take some responsibility for his past and future behaviour? He goes and talks to school, see if they will come up with a scheme whereby if he behaves, does his homework, attends morning lessons on matinee days, makes up afternoon lessons by the start of summer term etc - they will allow it. He’s still being a sulky wee baggage about it and you are doing all the running.

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:23

It's interesting that your thread title indicates that the school is being unreasonable!

Muttley17 · 03/03/2026 19:25

Is Drama school an option seeing as you’re throwing money away on their education at present? Some require academic qualifications for entry though, perhaps use that as an incentive

Holidaymumjoy · 03/03/2026 19:25

@BaronPencil I will be very gentle.

you are looking at this from a wrong g perspective. DH says ‘moving a problem.’ Guess what the schools reaction was: ‘ he is problem, we won’t get involved but to apply our policy’. Ask yourself as a family, if ds can’t be bothered to adjust his bad behaviour at school, why should the consider ‘him’ when he doesn’t consider them.

also looks like they want to get rid and see this as a neat opportunity.

seriously, you have money, so why are you concerned with the school that ds hates? You speak of wanting structure and good standards but he brings none! Maybe first teach him that at home?

who knows, maybe drama is his talent. So why let school stop him?yes, I cannot get your reasoning.

AliTheMinx · 03/03/2026 19:25

YABU. The school.is right and rules are rules.