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TheKeatingFive · 04/03/2026 10:33

Can someone explain to me what happened to the Greens? I thought they were supposed to be about the environment? How did this kind of identity politics take over?

HappyFace2025 · 04/03/2026 10:37

LucyWestenra · 04/03/2026 10:27

Growing up in Germany I am obviously painfully aware of my country’s history, which is why I cannot understand why over there people are throwing the Jewish community under the bus ‘because Gaza’.

It makes me so angry.

And I know it’s no better over here.

I saw a Jewish woman being interviewed on Sky News (in Brighton I think) and she said she still wears her Star of David necklace proudly, and apparently an elderly man commented on it and said he is hiding his under his clothes these days.

How is this acceptable?

It isn't acceptable at all. I proudly wear mine but neither of my daughters do any longer 😥

Firry · 04/03/2026 10:38

TheKeatingFive · 04/03/2026 10:33

Can someone explain to me what happened to the Greens? I thought they were supposed to be about the environment? How did this kind of identity politics take over?

The trot out some such nonsense that ‘they believe social justice goes hand in hand with environmental protection’ and use that as an excuse to go heavily into the trans, antisemitism, wealth tax and giving every penny in tax take to those who can’t be bothered to work. Quite a lot of idiots fell for it so paid off for them.

Environment? What environment?

canisquaeso · 04/03/2026 10:38

caringcarer · 02/03/2026 17:22

Left wing groups all seem.to support Palestine and Hamas and be against Israelis. It doesn't suprise me at all.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Israelis were victims on October 7, that’s a fact, but they’re no saints and haven’t been since 1948.

Firry · 04/03/2026 10:39

We can all agree that Hamas we’re in the wrong though can’t we?

Calendulaaria · 04/03/2026 10:43

In the pictures, the crotch of their jeans were absolutely blood-soaked. What the hell did she think happened to them? Sickening that she can say this.

LucyWestenra · 04/03/2026 10:50

HappyFace2025 · 04/03/2026 10:37

It isn't acceptable at all. I proudly wear mine but neither of my daughters do any longer 😥

So sorry to hear that 🥺

Its a fucking disgrace.

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Boilingfrogatprimaryschool · 04/03/2026 10:51

Their strap line is not 'Hope, not Hate'. It is 'Hope not. Hate'.

They are a vile bunch of useful idiots who will find themselves discarded sooner rather than later by the voting membership pulling their strings.

Lifesd · 04/03/2026 10:53

5MinuteArgument · 02/03/2026 17:45

Useful idiots. Enablers of terrible behaviour. I hope these people are the first to feel the heat if at some point in the future the Islamists come to power.

I agree - I’ve said this before on previous posts that the hoops left wing loonies will jump through to defend murderous terrorist ideology is insanity itself

dubbie · 04/03/2026 10:57

The Green Party have turned in to the Islamist Party. They are full of people like this.

LucyWestenra · 04/03/2026 11:01

Calendulaaria · 04/03/2026 10:43

In the pictures, the crotch of their jeans were absolutely blood-soaked. What the hell did she think happened to them? Sickening that she can say this.

It doesn’t bear thinking about what those poor women went through, it really doesn’t.

And the fact that it’s another woman denying it happened makes it even worse.

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NiftyBlueRobin · 04/03/2026 11:02

Sadly, there are many self-proclaimed feminists for whom VAWG should only be spoken of if it fits their own political narrative. Otherwise they want women who have been subjected to violence to stay quiet, or they join the crowds in defaming them as manipulative, untrustworthy liars.

You see it as well with feminists who prescribe to gender ideology and deny that any women have been raped by TIMs, or those who are against borders and label any evidence of migrant men committing sex crimes as lies. Anything that threatens to topple their hierarchy of oppression must be denounced as either lies or excusable in the circumstances.

LucyWestenra · 04/03/2026 11:02

canisquaeso · 04/03/2026 10:38

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Israelis were victims on October 7, that’s a fact, but they’re no saints and haven’t been since 1948.

Can we please not do that on this thread?

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OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 11:04

cariadlet · 02/03/2026 18:12

In my FB feed, the people who deny or minimise the sexual violence that was a deliberate part of the October massacres, seem to be the same people who are telling me that most women in Iran are happy to have their hair covered ; that the numbers of protesters shot by the regime have been grossly exaggerated and that the protests were orchestrated by Mossad!

Unbelievable!

Misogyny at it's worst. Women have no rights. That is all.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 11:07

NiftyBlueRobin · 04/03/2026 11:02

Sadly, there are many self-proclaimed feminists for whom VAWG should only be spoken of if it fits their own political narrative. Otherwise they want women who have been subjected to violence to stay quiet, or they join the crowds in defaming them as manipulative, untrustworthy liars.

You see it as well with feminists who prescribe to gender ideology and deny that any women have been raped by TIMs, or those who are against borders and label any evidence of migrant men committing sex crimes as lies. Anything that threatens to topple their hierarchy of oppression must be denounced as either lies or excusable in the circumstances.

The hierarchy of oppression. Too true.
It's also much worse; some people would ally themselves with fascism - the antisemitic, misogynist, homophobic, nihilist, anti democratic groups such as Hamas, rather than support women who are victims of sexual violence.
It's a blind spot. A damaging one.

caringcarer · 04/03/2026 11:09

Firry · 04/03/2026 10:39

We can all agree that Hamas we’re in the wrong though can’t we?

Yes they were in the wrong.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/03/2026 11:10

TheKeatingFive · 04/03/2026 10:33

Can someone explain to me what happened to the Greens? I thought they were supposed to be about the environment? How did this kind of identity politics take over?

I was wondering this too.
It's a shame as they always used to be a safe protest vote for me but that is no longer a possibility now.

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 11:10

Of course YANBU @LucyWestenra

People hiding behind the source to say YABU need to consider that there are direct quotes from Abi Wilkinson which remain the same regardless of who reports them:

Abi Wilkinson, who joined the Green Party operation last month after previously working for Zarah Sultana of Your Party, previously said regarding rapes which took place on 7 October: “There’s absolutely no new evidence, there is not a single identified victim. It wouldn’t justify this genocide if it was true, but there’s absolutely no evidence whatsoever that it is.” Another tweet from Wilkinson on the same subject said: “there is no victim testimony, not a single one”.

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/green-party-press-officer-denied-hamas-7-october-rape-calls-zionists-demons/

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 11:11

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/03/2026 11:10

I was wondering this too.
It's a shame as they always used to be a safe protest vote for me but that is no longer a possibility now.

Me too. Plus I think the environment is such a pressing issue. I've no idea what's gone on there.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 11:12

@Twiglets1 : so women's voices are denied.
Yet again. So regressive.

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 11:16

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 11:12

@Twiglets1 : so women's voices are denied.
Yet again. So regressive.

It's disgusting and the people voting YABU on this thread should be ashamed.

Whatever they think of the war in Gaza.

This is about innocent women being raped.

To close your mind to it because it's Jewish women is so disturbing.

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 11:18

The Green Party are utterly discredited in my mind as even the name is dishonest now - it's nothing to do with the environment anymore.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 11:19

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 11:16

It's disgusting and the people voting YABU on this thread should be ashamed.

Whatever they think of the war in Gaza.

This is about innocent women being raped.

To close your mind to it because it's Jewish women is so disturbing.

I cannot begin to understand that mindset. It just horrifies me so much.

BillieWiper · 04/03/2026 11:34

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/03/2026 18:02

The only reason those morons are in is they actively campaigned for the Muslim vote by (rightly or wrongly) smearing Reform as racist.

Well, rightly calling them racist. Would you vote Reform if you were Muslim?

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 04/03/2026 11:37

Neither Abi Wilkinson or the Green party were held hostage by hamas.
nor were they at the Nova music festival on 7th Oct 2023.
nor were they captured from their homes in a Kibbutz.

Why would either suggest or believe that the former hostages lied.

Ridiculous.

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