To think this is utterly disgusting?!?

[LucyWestenra]

What is wrong with people??

Talk about adding insult to injury!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15602697/amp/Green-Party-spin-doctor-denies-women-raped-October-7-attacks.html

Same.

I’m hoping that she is ousted as an anti semite. But let’s not forget the leader of the party tried to enlarge a woman’s breasts with hypnosis.

I wonder what her views are on the Holocaust.

it’s clear they have decided to go after the Muslim vote, they are prepared to lie, deceive and call rape victims liars. They are now officially an anti woman party. Any woman who votes for the Greens now is complicit in this horrendous view of rape victims as being liars

Ask Faust

Yup. Immoral and stupid at the same time.

Let’s hope you’re right.

Same. So pro human and anti murder.

We have had crazy Green politicians in power in Scotland and they are really mad and dangerous. Perfect example here, Maggie Chapman. So smug, priggish and stupid:

https://x.com/LBC/status/1615042633096695825/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1615042633096695825&currentTweetUser=LBC

It’s called tactical voting and at least it kept Reform out. What worries me more is that Reform voters lack critical thinking skills so that they are willing to forgo their employment rights, rights to bodily autonomy, maternity & paternity rights including leave and job protections, rights to equal pay, rights to an abortion, and are happy for single childless women to pay an additional tax for not having children (even if they physically can’t) and we go to a potentially ruinous private healthcare option. Reform policies impact women and disable people disproportionately. DEI isn’t just for the ethnic peoples it’s for all women and those who have protected characteristics under law. Reform also want to get rid of the two child cap so they can afford a 5p reduction in the price of a pint. Note they’re not making childless or feckless men pay additional tax or even their child support. But as long as they have a slightly cheaper pint.

Reform are happy to tell us who they are and what they are going to do if they get into power. Best believe it. One thing they won’t do is actually get rid of illegal migration entirely, because then who will they blame when the rich get even wealthier and the ignorant poor need someone to blame. They need their bogeyman and they will keep it.

Thank you.

I had no idea she previously worked with Your Party.

That explains a lot.

Me too, pro human, anti murder but very much not into disbelieving rape victims.
I used to hope that one day the Green party could become a real political alternative but now that seems a ridiculous dream!

I would assume most of us on here would be the same.

You could always vote tactically for mainstream party though. Reform and Greens are both as bad as each other. They’re both utterly abhorrent. Who in their right mind would vote for either of these disgusting options?

Unfortunately the link doesn’t seem to work.

Can you say what it says, in a nutshell?

Exactly, I can’t understand why any woman would want to vote for the Greens at this moment in time.

I hope so!! ❤️

I do find this interesting. This kind of denial comes from a few things, I think. There's the well known phenomenon of confirmation bias where people simply give more weight to any information that fits what they already believe and discard what doesn't. But I think for a certain type of person, it goes a lot further. I think there are a lot of people whose entire identity is wrapped up in being a 'Good Person' on the side of right.
And it's much easier to simplify everything into Gaza = Good and Israel = bad than it is to look at the incredibly complex politics and history behind the middle East, behind Israeli history, behind Hamas, behind Gaza and Palestine.
I think its a form of deep intellectual laziness and cowardice. If the October attacks didn't happen, then that 'Good Person TM' can go ahead and campaign and malign Israel in good conscience.
No questions have to be asked. No thought needs to be be given as to how to solve an incredibly complex and longstanding religious and political problem. They don't have to do anything other than turn up with a placard and shout a bunch of slogans and sleep easily at night knowing they are doing right.
But if the October attacks did happen, then as a 'Good Person', then if they are simply going along with everything, including supporting Hamas, then they are aligning themselves with something so incredibly horrific that their brains refuse to believe it can be true.
Because that puts them into the bad people camp.
People don't like questioning themselves or their own beliefs. Even on this thread, we've had a poster look at the source of the story as the Daily Mail and immediately try to persuade us all to dismiss it.
They've not made any attempt to verify whether this particular story true or its not. Just dismissed it because that's easier than asking whether it is and then having to reassess or update their beliefs and knowledge about the Green Party.
In many ways, I think this kind of thinking has replaced a lot of traditional religious belief as Britain has become more secular. It's turning a particular political alignment into something in which you either have complete faith and need to defend, or you're a heretic.

Thank you

Great post.

Maggie Chapman telling Tom Swarbrick on live radio that she doesn’t know her sex because she hasn’t had her chromosomes checked.

These people have power over our lives. It’s appalling. They celebrated putting the income tax up too. Currently in Scotland the 40% rate is 42% and starts from £43k not £50k as in England. Therefore if you earned between £100k - £125k you were paying a marginal rate of 62% income tax (64% if you include NICs), but the Greens decided we needed to add an extra 3% to that for those earning from £75k - £125k. Which begs the question:

a) did they not think 64% was enough already, or
b) are they so stupid they don’t understand marginal rates at all and genuinely thought that those on £100k-£125k were paying a marginal rate of 42% (+2% NICs) not 64% (now 67%!)?

I predict b) as these are achingly stupid people.

What really surprises me about the trans issue is those promoting trans rights clearly did not think of the rights of women who have been sexually assaulted. These people and their right to privacy were disregarded. The thought that AGP men exist is also disregarded. Says a lot about the sheltered lives of so many ‘Good’ middle class people.

Excellent points, @DabOfPistachio .
I remember seeing an interview with Obama when he criticised people for "calling out".
He said some people wave placards, repeat slogans and post on social media without information, context, nuance or reflection.
They think they're in the right because they've "called it out".
They must be a good person.

Thank you for that.

She doesn’t know her sex because she hasn’t had her chromosomes checked?

🧐

Fuck me.

And yes, the tax issue is appalling. Always easy to spend other people’s money though, isn’t it?

That’s absolutely shocking. She should be in trouble for false reporting. I don’t usually say this but she could have ruined an innocent man’s life.

I think some of them just don't care.

There are no kudos points to be had in standing up for abused women.

Of course.