To think this is utterly disgusting?!?

[LucyWestenra]

What is wrong with people??

Talk about adding insult to injury!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15602697/amp/Green-Party-spin-doctor-denies-women-raped-October-7-attacks.html

Here you are again, believing Hamas proscribed terrorists over evidence shown in reports.

False flags! My goodness, what they did on 7th October was not false flags.

Why do you keep parroting what 'Hamas says', why do you believe them so readily?

'What Hamas said' and 'what is true' can be (and often are) completely different things.

Sorry, I thought you had read my posts and were responding.

The two reports you refer to were the ones done more recently. This is the conflict of evidence which I referred to.

I won't be able to answer any more of your questions, you will need to read the full thread, and watch the links.

Here you are again, believing Hamas proscribed terrorists over evidence shown in reports.

I haven't said what I believed. I have said this more than once now.
Saying "Tom said x and Olivia said y and Joseph said Z and there is conflict in what is being said, and some people believe Tom and some people believe Olivia and some people believe Joseph" is not the same thing as saying I believe any one thing over the other. I didn't say anything about what I believed.
I hope that this helps you understand why I was so disgusted over the personal attacks and that you give it a rest now.
Or go back and actually watch the report I linked and then pass comment on that, perhaps.

😴stop posting AT me; it's boring.

I'm not going to reply to you anymore. Enough posters have already pushed back against your claims, but the grasping at anything, making things up and going off in tangents is tiresome.

Enjoy your day and stop bothering me 🙄

As you long as you understand that what you (plural) have accused me of in terms of believing or denying or dismissing is not at all true, and nothing I have said would justify such accusations, I am happy to leave things there.

There has been no making things up or going off on tangents or grasping at anything on my part at all. I have pushed backed at that, not the other way round.

Bottom line here, I think, is that what we should be focusing on is that we need a fair and equal two state solution to be negotiated and agreed, and confirmations from all parties that there will be no more attacking by any party after that has been agreed. This is what will bring long term safety and peace for all.

Meanwhile:

The sound of crickets from The Green Party. Maybe they are too busy trying hypnosis on their voting numbers, allegedly hypnosis grows things 🙄

If they have read this thread they will be clear about the modus operandi at least.

They really know how to pick them.

https://spectator.com/article/why-is-this-green-candidate-sharing-an-anti-semitic-post/

Rightly.

Come on, you can't be that naive/obtuse/dim. Reform are racist. Period.

Oh wait. You said 'smearing'. So it's clear whose side you're on.

So someone who believes that there are too many Jews in government might be in charge of an area with a Synagogue. Chilling.

And we know which side you're on, eh...

The green party can't be antisemitic their leader is a Jewish man , pretty sure this was the argument for why Ukraine didn't have a nazi battalion or nazi problem because Zelensky is Jewish. Sadly racism and anti Muslim hatred is actually being pushed by pro Israeli jews and other Zionists in the west to normalise the racist Israeli regime. Look at who owns GB news and who he is married too, look at the recent news Jewish Sharon Osborne being dropped by a homelessness charity for supporting Tommy Robinson, look how every vocal anti Muslim politician praises Israel, they are being funded. Pro Israeli Jews are very racist indeed, in fact the whole idea of Israel is racist and so is the idea of a "chosen people" in an ancient book who can just come and ethnically cleanse a whole population who were actually in the land before Abraham came there from Iraq according to their own book.

What a vile, racist post. No wonder there have been so many antisemitic attacks recently when people are ooenly posting shite like this.

Yes. The side of respecting everyone whatever their origin..
Clearly you have a problem with that.
🤔

I agree that, if true, this is appalling.

I've worked with historians and students of the 2 world wars and I noticed a strange tendency to 'rubbish' atrocity stories from both of the wars. It's a kind of sequence: one side accuses the other of terrible atrocities (too awful to describe here) and everyone is horrified. Then scepticism starts to creep in and the stories are questioned, often resulting in a sort of blanket dismissal of them as propaganda.

Sure, there might be an element of exaggeration and propaganda in these (for example) anti-German stories but in fact many were well-documented and found to be worse than the 'folklore'. Look at what happened at Oradour-sur-Glane, or the horrific pogroms of the Nazi invasion of the USSR.

I remember it was a a kind of badge of honour for some people in that context to dismiss atrocity stories as mere propaganda but these things DO happen. People are capable of horrific sadism, especially when they perceive it as justified revenge. I think some people cannot cope with this reality - they want to believe everyone is basically good and decent. They're not.

I know these terrible things happened on October 7th and I'm shocked that anyone who claims to be a serious politician could claim otherwise.

The green party can't be antisemitic their leader is a Jewish man , pretty sure this was the argument for why Ukraine didn't have a nazi battalion or nazi problem because Zelensky is Jewish. Sadly racism and anti Muslim hatred is actually being pushed by pro Israeli jews and other Zionists in the west to normalise the racist Israeli regime. Look at who owns GB news and who he is married too, look at the recent news Jewish Sharon Osborne being dropped by a homelessness charity for supporting Tommy Robinson, look how every vocal anti Muslim politician praises Israel, they are being funded. Pro Israeli Jews are very racist indeed, in fact the whole idea of Israel is racist and so is the idea of a "chosen people" in an ancient book who can just come and ethnically cleanse a whole population who were actually in the land before Abraham came there from Iraq according to their own book.

Shocking rubbish. I've read exactly this sort of thing in researching Nazi Germany.

they are being funded
Oh, the Jews operate conspiracies, do they? (Antisemitic trope as old as the bloody hills.)

Pro Israeli Jews are very racist indeed
The Jews despise non-Jews, do they? (Antisemitic trope as old as the hills.)

the whole idea of Israel is racist
The Jews aren't allowed a country, are they? Other national groups are, but not them. Different rules for Jews! (Obvious antisemitism.)

Get a bloody grip - on reality, not your copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Sort yourself out Green Party. There is no place for this hatred here. Who the heck votes for individual's like this. Condoning violence, sick person needs deselection.

"A terror attack on a synagogue was “not anti-semitism” but was “revenge” for Israel “murdering people,” according to a video promoted by a Green Party council candidate.

Sabine Mairey, a Green candidate for Clapham Town ward in Lambeth, south London, posted the video, by David Spevak, an American Jewish anti-Zionist, on her Facebook page last month. It’s still there at the time of writing."

Of course I don't. There's a massive amount of people from a sizeable minority in this country who do have a problem with that, though.

I would be appalled except it is from the Daily Mail and therefore cannot be trusted as a piece of journalism. I also think Polanski has a much tighter whip and vetting on his party members and candidates than some other parties so the chances of this being truth are very slim.

He may indeed have a tighter whip, but there seems little will to purge the party of those with nasty views. Candidates were told to delete dubious social media posts, rather than be informed that they were no longer to stand or even be allowed in the party.

You think all the screenshots of the tweets are fake? And the ones of the other candidates, and the co-leader?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy012knxk3lo

Do political parties not vet candidates anymore? Or do they just not care if they're racist.

For so-called Reform that's a feature not a bug