To think this is utterly disgusting?!?

[LucyWestenra]

What is wrong with people??

Talk about adding insult to injury!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15602697/amp/Green-Party-spin-doctor-denies-women-raped-October-7-attacks.html

I hear you as well.

What we need is more allies though.

I also haven't heard anything back from the Green party (I am not counting the automatic email reply 'we received your message')

The Green party are denying the rapes.

how could they know this.

Why does the green party think / believe / suggest the women would make this up ?!!!

does the green party think / believe all victims and survivors of rape have made it up,

or is it just the Jewish ones ?

Does the green party think the hostages - male and female, young and old, Jewish, Israeli, Thai and other nationalities were living in hammas and / or Palestinian family homes
being lovingly cared for, by the mothers, wives and sisters of the hammas men, fed 3 decent meals a day, ( with any and all dietary requirements / needs taken into consideration, with private bedrooms and en suites !

The green party ought to concentrate on green issues

and should make a huge financial donation to the former hostages fund.

For the hostages, young or old, male or female, being released is just the beginning.

I'd imagine a lot of women will think there's a Special Place in Hell for women like her....

Noone has said that. I don't think it is okay to put words in people's mouths which they haven't said, doing that is basically gaslighting and it isn't on.

I can assure you there are people who don't give a monkeys that Jewish men and women were raped and some even celebrated it happening even on 8 October 2023 immediately after they had taken place.
No gaslighting at all.
As I said, absolutely disgusting.

Abi W's posts say that there is no evidence. She hasn't denied rape. She appears to be criticising the Israel state for propagating information in relation to which there is no evidence.

Incidentally, if you believe she is wrong about the evidence, the best thing you can do is present the evidence as you believe it to be. By presenting the evidence to the Green Party (and here) people will focus on the actual evidence. If you just say "there is lots of evidence" then people won't know what you are talking about.

Did she say "demonic Zionists" or "zionists are demons"? I can't find her actual tweet on this, what exactly did she say?

I have seen a lot of footage from 8 Oct, but not that - also, bear in mind that the Hamas/Palestinian position was that there were no rapes, so they wouldn't have been celebrating it.

I found the Myerson tweets to be quite disturbing, personally. In one he is really rude to a jewish person. He is a judge and has already been reprimanded about his social media content in relation to a different area I think for him to disagree with posters is fine, but the content goes well beyond that.

Im guessing you are joking?!!

Hopefully that is a joke, but who knows? There are enough for around who will vote for the Greens.

Just because you haven't seen people celebrate the rapes of Jewish men and women doesn't mean that they weren't celebrated. They were.

Anyone who wonders if there were rapes during the October 7th pogrom should read the 7 October Parliamentary Commission Report. You can download it from the link below.

https://www.7octparliamentarycommission.co.uk

There is evidence of rapes. There's a huge report (Dinah) on what occurred on 7th October. If people choose to ignore it and then make disgusting claims of course they will get called out on it. She deleted her tweets, so if she thought they were correct, then why delete!

Some links to evidence have been posted on this thread already. Do people actually bother to read posts!

Read what you have said:

"I have seen a lot of footage from 8 Oct, but not that - also, bear in mind that the Hamas/Palestinian position was that there were no rapes, so they wouldn't have been celebrating it."

That you would believe the word of scum, vile, terrorists over others. Wow. Appalling. Well if Hamas position is there were no rapes DESPITE documented evidence in a huge report then there is no helping you at all.

Over the many, many months since October 7th reports and testimony have been published, but still the same old same old..... Where's the proof, it didn't happen, on a mum's site of all places. Shame on people.

I think you should think before you insult people. Read what I wrote again. The other poster said people celebrated rapes. How could people celebrate things which they say did not happen?

I didn't say anything to do with believing anyone. Or taking sides.
Unlike you I don't go round insulting people either, as a general rule. Your post is unacceptable.

I posted a link to a report by Al Jazeera which, interalia, sets out in detail the problems with evidence. The report interviews independent people who spent many months reviewing what evidence was available.
Unless this has been retracted, it appears there is a conflict of evidence.

I read your posts but it seems that you don't read mine or look at my links. If you want to talk about evidence I think you should look at everything available and compare.

Also, have you read the entire Dinah report and the entire UN report?

"on MN of all places" - the issue for us all including parents is that our world is threatening to cave in because of what is happening in the ME.

This is to do with all humanity and the future of all our children.

I think that if you are going to post as a group and organise and try to influence things as a group, you have an obligation to question and look into things, to be certain sure and to be able to discuss things without insulting people.

And you have an obligation to not try to discredit other people into silence when they question things.

'And you have an obligation to not try to discredit other people into silence when they question things' Pot, kettle, black, springs to mind.

You are gaslighting because I have not tried to discredit anyone, and no one else from your group has questioned anything in any event.

I am also not posting as part of a huge group.

What 'group'? This is a forum. No gaslighting on my part, either. I find your posts amusing.

You find them amusing?

I find your posts really upsetting.

Just to clarify that there is no "pot, kettle, black" situation going on.

In your view.

And I think you're utterly confused. You make no sense by insisting that Hamas can't possibly have celebrated the rapes, as they have said there were none. What kind of lunacy is this?