'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

[paloma7]

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

It’s not inclusive if there are vegans, vegetarians or people who don’t eat any animals or certain animals for religious reasons

Ethical veganism is a protected characteristic under the Equalities Act

Some Students can, by necessity, be forced to self exclude from the raising process

Suggestions through Legal and Duty of Care Consideration is for schools to grow fruit and veg so they can include everyone Equally in both the learning process and the celebration of it

You can tell lots of people don’t live near proper butchers either. Or seeing a whole half dead animal would be pretty normal

@paloma7 Do you drink cows milk or eat cheese OP? If so, that's actually far, far worse in terms of baby animal slaughter. Also, I'm pretty sure that Muslims won't be queuing up to visit this restaurant unless it serves a range of halal meat and has a halal kitchen environment (which is obviously not the case).

I grew up around markets/reataurants/homes in China and France

I am now a vegetarian.

if you eat it you should see it. Far too sanitised in the UK

I eat meat. I’m aware where it comes from. I wouldn’t be offended as that would make me a hypocrite.

Oh well - go back in time 30 years and complain if it bothers you!

I agree.

And also I wonder why some omnivores seem to think that eating horse is wrong (delicious) or dogs (not knowingly eaten).

So yes then?

But a "whole dead animal" is where the food came from. I see no issue with this. People should be connected with their food.

And the others who are realistic about what those pieces of protein represent are OK with it. Admittedly, it does somewhat knock the 'stupid omnis can't handle that they're eating death' argument out of the water, which must be quite irritating for those who believed it, but, along with billions of other people who are very aware of what is required in order to have that meal, they are eating meat in a similar situation as the one humans have experienced for millennia.

Yep, horse is delicious - so is Zebra, come to that. We used to have an exotic steakhouse near us and my DP at the time and I made it our mission to eat everything they had on the menu

I also don't particularly object to dogs or cats being raised for meat if it's done ethically.

Don't be facetious. Do you, as a warm-blooded sentient being, have the potential to experience pain or fear in the same way as other large mammals? Or are you claiming to be no different to an oyster?

Think you’ll find non meat eaters don’t have a problem with pigs not existing at all.

Yes I love trying new animals. Give any a try once.

My mother is the same although she objects to dolphins that’s her line 😅

I'm not being facetious. You're the one saying they're not the same, so I'm asking you why you only object to whole pigs, and not fish, prawns or other whole animals being served in restaurants?

It's interesting that you don't seem to have an answer.

They also brought a whole (dead) tuna into the restaurant to be chopped up for dinner and to create a spectacle.

Is this not acceptable either?

Can you even eat dolphin meat?!

Muslim woman here. It wouldn't deter me from eating there because it wouldn't matter to me what the people at the next table were eating. In the same way I have no problem with my friend sat opposite me eating a bacon sandwich. Or when my Chinese friend had whole baby pigs on each table at her wedding...

Edit to add: I wonder if you're actually also a bit squeamish in the same way my DH doesn't like looking at a whole lobster or crab or little prawn heads attached when I have seafood and finds it uncomfortable to look at.

I think you can technically eat any meat, can’t you?

That’s not an argument
because
Neither do human babies
So that’s OK then ?

Except humans eating human meat is dangerous and can kill us.

Yes. YANBU. Saying “meat eaters know where meat comes from” is stating the obvious and missing the point.

It is a spectacle of suffering. It’s odd how the worse the ethics of a product are - e.g. real fur, foie gras - the more “luxurious” it is considered. As if it’s considered more authentic and traditional because more suffering has happened.

In Taiwan, they have a dish of a live, cooked fish. Its organs are selectively removed and it’s lightly cooked to keep it alive, gasping on the plate. There’s no culinary benefit but again, the suffering is the spectacle.

I’ve never seen it sold, though I’m sure it’s likely on some black markets, but that’s her line.

She would try every other animal on the planet but not dolphin.

So actually this (your comment) is an example of genuine inclusivity, whereas the suggested "inclusivity" is to pick and choose whose customs and preferences must be observed.

I think OP has replied on this. I also think it’s a ridiculous question to ask. Comparing an oyster to a pig.