'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

[paloma7]

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

But that argument isn’t specific to suckling pigs.

I’m sure a lot of vegetarians and vegans would prefer it if nobody ate fish or meat. That isn’t going to happen!

Many animals bred for food would have had no life at all if there was no market for them as food.

I mean we can debate whether that is better or not from the pig's perspective, but let's not pretend he'd otherwise have been running free in fields of buttercups and tended till old age.

Because IMO, there's nothing undignified about a life filled with milk, food, sleep and play before a humane death.

Pigs have no idea that they're supposed to live to a certain age. They're not humans and trying to compare them to humans makes you seem rather silly.

Well, perhaps it was! Different countries have different rules and customs. In the UK however that wouldn't / shouldn't happen.

I have never had suckling pig but I have raised pigs and to be honest I find it hard to think there'd be enough on a genuine newborn animal to eat. I don't disbelieve you, I'm just surprised.

You make it sounds so nice.

What if we had people who are given a great life and then before they get too old they are killed humanely and served to meat eating animals.

Really? Surely you can spot the creature that is a mammal, just like you.

I don’t think “most meat eaters would balk at this”
Its no different to serving a roast chicken and I don’t think anyone would find that unusual

Um, no it's not......

It was really tiny, I recall. No, I didn't think that you disbelieved me.

It was more than 50 yrs ago, but I remember because I had to go running for my great-aunt when the sow got into difficulty giving birth...and I was a bit taken aback when one of the piglets appeared on the table. (This was a fairly remote village at the time.)

So simply don’t go there. Problem solved.

So you only worry about mammals?

Cute mammals

Well, it would probably a better ending than many of us have now!

I just looked at the menu - they apparently also do a baby chicken. Not sure why OP isn’t equally outraged by that.

Oh, so it's only mammals you claim to care about then?

I don't think it's making a spectacle.

I think it's important for people to remember where meat comes from. Squeamishness to the point where you'd rather waste parts of the animal bothers me, and I think that comes from people having a disconnect with the reality of it all.

From the menu:

whole roasted suckling pig MP
whole roasted suckling pig, bao buns, pickled vegetables,
selection of sauces. preorder 48 hours in advance.

Pigs are grown for slaughter and for us to eat - what difference does it make at what stage in their lives they are slaughtered?

Exactly, @BIWI

I've no issue at all with something being slaughtered for my dinner; all I care about is that it's had a reasonably decent life and isn't tortured at the end of it - and that's easily achieved by sourcing it properly

No. I think it's tiresome when people default to "well what about a prawn. What about an oyster., or a eh , eh." As if a shrimp and a pig or cow are remotely the same thing.

Don't have a problem with it. Most pigs are bred for eating. My grannie used to put a pig's head in the copper and make brawn.

Hog roast
Lamb on a spit
Chicken rotisserie
Poussin
Whole salmon
Sardines
Trout

Etc, etc

Tempted to book

I'm not sure about the pickles, I think they'd overwhelm the flavour of the meat.

I am also veggie. I do not care if other people eat meat. I do not care if a suckling pig appears on TV. It's so easy not to eat there or watch something else.

They're both animals. Surely you should care about all of them equally?

No it's not obscene to see meat on a table that hasn't had its head cut off. If you eat meat then unfortunately you have to accept a lot of it does usually come with a face.

If you don't eat meat I guess it could seem very unpleasant.

And lucky cat opened ages ago, it's apparently shite.

I understand your point and would find it unappetising (I very rarely eat any type of pork anyway). On the other hand, the animal still has to die whether it’s cut into indistinguishable pieces or presented whole.