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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

OP posts:
Flowersforyourchocolateprettyplease · 05/03/2026 13:15

Firefly1987 · 04/03/2026 21:28

@Franpie So a baby animal just exists for a couple weeks and then is ripped away from it's mother and killed (probably very inhumanely) just to give meat eaters a nice taste for a few mins? At least if it was several months old it would feed more people.

A whole pig generally feeds between 50 and 200+ people, depending on the size of the hog and whether it is served as sandwiches or a plated meal. A small 30-40kg hog serves 50-80 guests, while a large 70-80kg hog can feed 150-200+ guests.

Taste Tradition Rare Breed Suckling Pig, 8-12kg (Serves 8-12 people)

What an absolute waste in so many ways.

Yes, they are bred to be eaten, surprised you didn't know this.

Also, Poussin, veal, cabrito, lamb etc.

Lamb tastes different to mutton and that applies to most meat.

Just as baby potatoes or baby carrots taste differently to full grown ones.
Just depends on what you fancy.

Firefly1987 · 05/03/2026 18:50

BIWI · 05/03/2026 08:35

killed (probably very inhumanely)

Stop being unnecessarily dramatic. You have no idea, do you, how they're slaughtered?

And @Franpie is right. What difference does it make just when an animal is slaughtered for food? Does it make it less cruel to let an animal live for longer? Why is more cruel to kill it earlier in its life?

I don't need to know how they are killed, I don't eat them so no point upsetting myself for nothing. It's the meat eaters that ought to look it up.

What difference does it make just when an animal is slaughtered for food?

I just think it's a waste. If you're going to eat meat fine, but at least make it sustainable and try and treat the animal well beforehand. Or do you not think humans should try to do things in the most ethical and sustainable way possible? I think you'd understand the difference if you lived in a starving village and one grown pig could feed the entire population but someone said "lets kill it at 2 weeks old because me and my mates would prefer to have a delicacy, the rest of you can starve".

WearyAuldWumman · 05/03/2026 20:21

As I tried to indicate above, it might be brutal but sometimes piglets are slaughtered early because the sow can't sustain the full litter - the average is apparently 10 to 12.

Certainly, there seemed to be a great many the one time I saw a sow farrowing.

DeepBlueDeer · 06/03/2026 03:06

Wynter25 · 05/03/2026 09:46

What a load of rubbish.

The only though i have is that i cant wait to eat it.
Looking like an animal doesnt bother me either.

These aren't my opinions, they're the results of studies of meat-eaters, and what they are or are not prepared to eat, based on presentation.

Note that if 40-45% of meat eaters wouldn't eat a fully intact suckling pig - because they say it triggers empathy/disgust feelings - that still means 55-60% would not be put off.

You being untroubled puts you in the "not put off" bucket. You feeling one way does not mean that everyone else does.

PollyBell · 06/03/2026 03:25

DeepBlueDeer · 06/03/2026 03:06

These aren't my opinions, they're the results of studies of meat-eaters, and what they are or are not prepared to eat, based on presentation.

Note that if 40-45% of meat eaters wouldn't eat a fully intact suckling pig - because they say it triggers empathy/disgust feelings - that still means 55-60% would not be put off.

You being untroubled puts you in the "not put off" bucket. You feeling one way does not mean that everyone else does.

Not all vegans eat all vegetables or fruits due to personal preferences nor do all meat eaters eat all meat also due to personal preferences there is no difference

DeepBlueDeer · 06/03/2026 07:50

PollyBell · 06/03/2026 03:25

Not all vegans eat all vegetables or fruits due to personal preferences nor do all meat eaters eat all meat also due to personal preferences there is no difference

But a sizeable portion of meat eaters turn up their nose at certain meals specifically not because of the taste but because that the way it is presented causes an emotional reaction - similar to the OP's.

Generally not an issue with fruits and vegetables...

Calliopespa · 06/03/2026 07:51

WearyAuldWumman · 03/03/2026 13:12

I thought that it was more to do with the dangers of fluke, etc at the time.

So did I.

Early in this thread I posted that I think it is healthy that we associate the meat we eat with the whole animal BUT I have to hand the op a small token of support as I have now watched the episode she refers to and, while my view is unchanged, I did have a small recoil on seeing the pig, especially as they had stuffed fresh flowers in its eye sockets.

I realise that was probably to obscure what were likely quite unsightly sockets, and that having it "look" at you might be extra distressing for some. But somehow the gesture made the poor thing faintly comical and particularly prone or vulnerable in the sense that it looked blindfolded.

I'm not sure what the answer to the eye sockets is, and I still think confronting the reality of what we eat is no bad thing, but I did see where OP was coming from.

WearyAuldWumman · 06/03/2026 09:38

The one time that I saw a suckling pig I don't recall being aware of empty eye sockets on the roasted animal, so I wonder whether - on the tv show - the flowers were put there for presentation purposes for some weird reason?

Calliopespa · 06/03/2026 09:40

WearyAuldWumman · 06/03/2026 09:38

The one time that I saw a suckling pig I don't recall being aware of empty eye sockets on the roasted animal, so I wonder whether - on the tv show - the flowers were put there for presentation purposes for some weird reason?

Yes I think normally the eyes just cook up to a sort of crispy skin like the rest!

WearyAuldWumman · 06/03/2026 09:42

Calliopespa · 06/03/2026 09:40

Yes I think normally the eyes just cook up to a sort of crispy skin like the rest!

Yes, that's what I recall.

Veganpower · 07/03/2026 15:34

OtterlyAstounding · 28/02/2026 10:17

I know you're trying to be provocative, but it seems a little 'teen angst' to make up 'offensive' terminology as if you think it achieves something.

Yes, human meat eaters do eat animal corpses, which (for practicalities sake) we do not usually slaughter ourselves on the spot anymore, and that for nutritional value and hygiene, we usually cook.

Omnivore is the correct word for a human who eats meat, though, as they eat plant matter too. All carnivores eat dead animals, as while some might start eating them while they're still alive, at a certain point they're all chowing on a corpse. Carnivore just means 'flesh eater', which is accurate whether said flesh belongs to a live animal, or a dead one.

(As an aside, I thought necrovore sounded like a metal band name, and funnily enough, it was! ☠)

Thank you for telling me what you think I am 'trying' to be/achieve. Your opening comment about 'teen angst' is bizarre.

I don't perceive the label 'necrovore' to be provocative or offensive, just accurate! Language does evolve and the lexicon expands to include new words.

I use 'corpse muncher' too. That one meet your approval or am I going to receive another patronising dressing down?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/03/2026 17:29

Veganpower · 07/03/2026 15:34

Thank you for telling me what you think I am 'trying' to be/achieve. Your opening comment about 'teen angst' is bizarre.

I don't perceive the label 'necrovore' to be provocative or offensive, just accurate! Language does evolve and the lexicon expands to include new words.

I use 'corpse muncher' too. That one meet your approval or am I going to receive another patronising dressing down?

That one's been going for at least 40 years. Pretty much since it became popular for Vegan campaigning to rely upon mostly naked young women and phraseology firmly rooted in sex/misogyny.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/03/2026 21:10

Veganpower · 07/03/2026 15:34

Thank you for telling me what you think I am 'trying' to be/achieve. Your opening comment about 'teen angst' is bizarre.

I don't perceive the label 'necrovore' to be provocative or offensive, just accurate! Language does evolve and the lexicon expands to include new words.

I use 'corpse muncher' too. That one meet your approval or am I going to receive another patronising dressing down?

I think it's funny, the way some vegans attempt to be passive aggressively insulting, and then pretend that oh no, they aren't! They're just being accurate!

So yes, consider this your patronising dressing down. Call omnivores what you like, but you sound like an angry teenager.

Flowersforyourchocolateprettyplease · 07/03/2026 21:58

#Omnivorepower.

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