'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

[paloma7]

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

I had no idea that this could be on the menu! Thanks for the tip OP. Do you know what the sides will be? Baby vegetables I hope.....

On the contrary, I think it ties in with conscientiousness about "nose to tail" eating and the general idea that if an animal is slaughtered, it should be used properly and not wasted.

I think getting to grips with what the whole dead animal looks like and not ignoring the bits we don't fancy (basically everything but the prime cuts) is probably a healthy thing that reflects biological reality.

Kept and killed chickens for food. Don’t have the required land documentation to keep anything else but if I could I would.

Means I’d know exactly how my meat was raised.

Pigs are really clever and the idea of eating a baby pig is awful. The way we treat animals is horrendous.

I’m so sorry OP my post upthread posted four times
I have no idea why 🤣

Easy this one. Don't go

Wouldnt bother me.

Giving them a great life before a humane, controlled death doesn't sound particularly horrendous to me.

Well maybe he wants to encourage his customers out of hypocrisy.

The difference with the suckling pig is that you eat all of it apart from the bones.

Point of order: suckling pigs are not slaughtered at birth. Apart from anything else, they'd be far too small.

The suckling part of the name means they've been reared exclusively on milk. Not that they're newborn.

Suckling pigs are usually slaughtered at around one month old.

Your standard pack of bacon or pork chops will have been slaughtered between 4-6 months old. Possibly earlier depending on the breed and intended outcome.

I'm not really sure there is a great deal of moral difference in those 3 months.

Seeing a whole dead animal served up is normal...... nobody seems to care when a fish, lobster or crab is presented on a plate

Or indeed a live oyster.

@faerylights if you"re eating a baby pig how has it had a 'great life before a humane, controlled death'?

Pigs have no concept of mortality and their own life spans, they're not people.

In lots of European countries serving a whole head would be totally normal. I’ve eaten a grilled sheep’s head in Albania and a stewed one in Iceland. You see racks of heads in lots of European food markets.

If you eat meat - which I do - you should in my opinion use every part of the animal. I buy high welfare meat and I will eat any part of it that’s available including offal, tail, head, trotters, brain, tripe. Otherwise it’s wasteful.

I wouldn’t set foot in a Gordon Ramsey restaurant because I think he’s a giant cunt, but the form in which he serves pork is irrelevant to that.

It's disingenuous to pretend an unshelled prawn or a whole fish is the same as a whole baby suckling pig being wheeled through a restaurant as some kind of gratuitous spectacle.

I would if there was a strong smell. (Have done in the past)
I probably would leave if I saw this.

Why isn't it the same?

I didn't know that. The piglet on the table when I was visiting the relatives in Eastern Europe was certainly tiny. I'm fairly certain that it had been born just the day before, but now you have me doubting myself. It was definitely one of the ones I saw being born - only one pig had farrowed.

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well said !

It's very easy, if eating only fillet of beef, that is either served elegantly beneath the glossy coverlet of a jus, or purchased shrink-wrapped and largely blood-free from a supermarket, to forget the rest of the carcass that died for that few square inches of deliciousness.

I'm not saying I necessarily find it easy to confront that reality, but I do think it is probably a good thing if I could.

@faerylights so how have baby pigs had a 'great life' if they are killed as babies? Pigs are sentient animals and super intelligent. While they might not understand death , they understand pain and ill treatment. Why do the rights of human beings override the rights of animals to have a dignified life?

An unshelled prawn? No. A whole fish? Yes, it absolutely can be.

It wouldn’t bother me at all we all know where meat comes from. You don’t like it but thats
you not the rest of us.