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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

OP posts:
DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:00

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:39

What a laugh for all

agree

sounds really inclusive !!

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:01

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:59

Yes it is more honest. Nevertheless, no meat eater I know would order that.

There will be vegetarians in the restaurant on any given night and the sight of something like that being wheeled through will be distressing for many of his customers.

Well, they can leave then can't they? 🙄

pippapipps · 27/02/2026 18:01

I’m with you op also vegetarian

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:01

Sartre · 27/02/2026 18:00

YABU for watching such tripe in the first place!

Very true!

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Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:01

I mean as a veggie or vegan surely you pay extra attention to where you eat. So you’d know his restaurant does this and avoid if your stomach couldn’t handle seeing it.

user1473878824 · 27/02/2026 18:01

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:59

Yes it is more honest. Nevertheless, no meat eater I know would order that.

There will be vegetarians in the restaurant on any given night and the sight of something like that being wheeled through will be distressing for many of his customers.

Oh come on you have to be taking the piss now

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:02

Nobody tell OP about stargazy pie!

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:02

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:27

I do think a lot of people who eat pork, probably do so because they like it but don't particularly want to dwell on where it comes from or how it was killed.

Buying bacon in Tesco or wherever is something millions do. But sitting eating pork with the pig's head in the table would not go down well with a lot of meat-eaters. It's just vile in any reckoning. Imagine paying for that.

Edited

Lots of negative comments from meat eaters online over This aswell

Oh well
He’ll alienate people
So much for his I love vegan food
just not vegans then Gorders

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/02/2026 18:02

user1473878824 · 27/02/2026 17:56

What a bizarre thread and even weirder thing to highlight.

should all Asian restaurants stop selling pork?

We really are pretty sanitised here. In Singapore you’d hear the cleavers, and see the butchery, alongside the food stalls. Things hanging up…

There was a famed crispy skinned duck hanging everywhere. Not unlike the rotisserie at a supermarket, come to think of it.

To be honest, OP, we eat meat. Small animals and big ones. Better that we don’t hide from the fact.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:03

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:00

agree

sounds really inclusive !!

Not everything needs to be inclusive.

It was an excellent lesson and all us kids ate the hog roast - knowing exactly where it came from and that they'd helped feed and raise the pig themselves.

None of us found it disgusting or upsetting - as I recall, we mostly thought it was amusing as the pig had been called Sage 😂

RudePie · 27/02/2026 18:04

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:54

Yes it is more honest. Nevertheless, no meat eater I know would order that.

The patrons of Botin in Madrid would disagree. It's been open since 1725 and this is their most famous dish (it was bloody lovely!).

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:04

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:02

Lots of negative comments from meat eaters online over This aswell

Oh well
He’ll alienate people
So much for his I love vegan food
just not vegans then Gorders

Not everywhere needs to cater solely for vegans and vegetarians.

Eating meat is a perfectly valid choice. Nobody is being forced to eat suckling pig or go to a specific restaurant if they find it distasteful.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:04

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:02

Lots of negative comments from meat eaters online over This aswell

Oh well
He’ll alienate people
So much for his I love vegan food
just not vegans then Gorders

You can love vegan food as well as meat.

I've eaten some amazing vegan dishes - still love a nice juicy bit of meat though!

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

OP posts:
Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 18:05

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/02/2026 18:02

We really are pretty sanitised here. In Singapore you’d hear the cleavers, and see the butchery, alongside the food stalls. Things hanging up…

There was a famed crispy skinned duck hanging everywhere. Not unlike the rotisserie at a supermarket, come to think of it.

To be honest, OP, we eat meat. Small animals and big ones. Better that we don’t hide from the fact.

Fully agree that UK is pretty sanitised about meat.
If people eat it, they should beable to look at it imho. And it's not just that, it's also bit of a being soft about certain animals being eaten. For example the amount of people horrified at idea of eating a rabbit is... Bit hilarious tbh

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:05

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

You do realise the pig isn’t being slaughtered at tableside?

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/02/2026 18:06

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

They're alive, not half dead.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:06

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

How do you feel about restaurants in Europe where you can pick your own lobster? Or supermarkets for that matter?

FreshInks · 27/02/2026 18:07

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

Do you consume dairy products?

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:07

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:37

If you ordered veal, would you want the cow's head on the table while you ate?

Yes, people know where meat comes from, but many of them don't like to dwell on it too much. No meat eater I know would be particularly delighted with the head of a lamb, pig or cow on the table while they ate. Let's be honest.

Or indeed to watch and partake in the full slaughtering process
Although I’m guessing MNetters will come back and say I’m fine with that 🤣. So I’ll pre empt. You might be but most people aren’t

Meanwhile I’m fine with digging up my own carrots.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/02/2026 18:09

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

I do wonder what would have happened to many species that humans have domesticated for food purposes if we hadn't intervened. Extinction or a short brutal life ending in death from disease or starvation or injuries inflicted in an attack from a predator? I don't see that a short life looked after by humans, fed, given expert veterinary treatment and then humanely killed is the worst option. The UK has some of the highest animal welfare standards in the world. Our landscape would look very different if we didn't have animals grazing on our uplands. We would also be very short of fertiliser for all the vegetables and grains needed for a diet that doesn't include meat.

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 18:10

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:07

Or indeed to watch and partake in the full slaughtering process
Although I’m guessing MNetters will come back and say I’m fine with that 🤣. So I’ll pre empt. You might be but most people aren’t

Meanwhile I’m fine with digging up my own carrots.

I am central european with links to rural, so I will be first of the MNetters to say, partaking in slaugher snd processing whole animal is actually not that hard generally. It's quick kill when done on tiny scale.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:11

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:07

Or indeed to watch and partake in the full slaughtering process
Although I’m guessing MNetters will come back and say I’m fine with that 🤣. So I’ll pre empt. You might be but most people aren’t

Meanwhile I’m fine with digging up my own carrots.

Why do you assume we wouldn't be fine with it, though?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/02/2026 18:12

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:02

Lots of negative comments from meat eaters online over This aswell

Oh well
He’ll alienate people
So much for his I love vegan food
just not vegans then Gorders

The vast majority of the UK population is omnivorous. We can enjoy things that don't contain meat or fish or dairy as well as things that do.

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 27/02/2026 18:13

I went out to eat at my favourite restaurant yesterday. I was served a whole fish, complete with head and tail. It looked and tasted delicious. Is that offensive too?

I'm no fan of GR but would love to try suckling pig. I can see a trip to Bishopsgate in my future.