To think prisoners should be safe in prison?

[BlueJuniper94]

Is this an unreasonable belief? I know Ian Huntley committed horrific crimes and I really do sympathise with the feelings that he deserves it in light of what his victims have suffered and continue to suffer.

BUT - this shouldn't be allowed to happen in prisons. Aibu?

"There's a strong criminal element in this prison." - Norman Stanley Fletcher

It's well known and a fact Ian Huntley has an x box. It's not a case of don't read the Daily Mail.

Lots of people wanted to attack. Huntley.
I've also read he was arguing with his attacker.
He was trying to bully him and gets others to go against him.
True or not. I don't know, it wouldn't suprise me though.
Thoroughly vile and unlikable creature.😱

I have as much compassion for child rapist's, murderers, abusers as they for their victims. = 0. On the contrary.

I think primary school children should be safe walking around their local area.

I think anyone out and about should be safe.

Prisoners full of evil men who have all committed evil crimes are hard to control. They can fashion a weapon from a pen. Should they not have pens. Prisons have lots of measures to protect prisoners but occasionally if someone is determined enough an attack will occur.

I feel sorry for prison officers who get attacked just doing their job.

If he has an X box he will not be using it in the immediate future, he might as well let his inmates use it.

One thing occurs to me. I absolutely agree that Huntley and his ilk are evil, and I can find no sympathy in my heart for him, but when prisons aren’t safe for the worst in society, like him, they are also not safe for the more mundane prisoners, nor are they safe for the prison staff.

If giving prison officers a safe workplace, and prisoners on remand and those not guilty of evil crimes safe means that the likes of Huntley are also kept safe, I’m OK with that.

I'm not. They could house the evil monsters in their own wing and the more "mundane" prisoners in theirs. That way the ilk of IH...(I spit when I say his name), can kill each other. No loss to society.

Not sure if you have ever been a prisoner? I'd hazard a guess that you haven't.
Deprivation of freedom and liberty, strict regimes, away from family and friends. This is not in any way diluting the seriousness of victims and families of crime.
I have experience of the catastrophic consequences of a loved one in prison, both for the prisoner and their family

@Peppermintpatty24 - that would lessen the risk to other prisoners, but not to the prison staff. Surely a safer prison environment for prison staff is a good thing - and worth lessening the risk of violence towards even the worst prisoners?

We all know about miscarriages of justice, right, times when someone gets locked away for a violent crime they never committed?

Some of you think that's fine if these victims of justice then get killed by other prisoners for entertainment.

Don’t put words in my mouth, you don’t know me you don’t know what I think.
Whether the majority of people are guilty or not isn’t the point. You said essentially that being found guilty of a crime means you are fair game to be the recipient of violence and that’s not a civilised society is supposed to work, guilty or not no one deserves to die. And if we say it’s fine to do to someone like Huntley then that leaves us wide open for an ever increasing list of people who it’s fine to assault and potentially kill. de-humanising prisons leads nowhere good.
also I didn’t say prison officers are obliged to put their life on the line, and actually just shrugging and going ‘oh well’ when it’s Huntley puts more officers lives in danger. Prisons should be as safe as possible for both staff and prisoners.

It's tempting

I agree, @OwlBeThere.

tbh I dont care, They are fed, warm, roof over their heads. More than many pensioners are. None of them deserve our pity. Firmly believe in the death penalty for those convicted of horrific crimes and there is no doubt of their innocence. Millions of our taxes are going on these people who are not worth the air they breathe

It is more important that law-abiding people not in prison are safe. The safety of prisoners should not take precedence over that.

I don’t care. Violent criminals have forfeited their rights to live amongst the civilised. Fuck them, to put it plainly.

I don’t think anyone is saying that prisoners should be kept safe at the expense of innocent people in the outside world, though, are they, @OonaStubbs?

Keeping them safe in prison doesn’t make us any less safe outside. And I’d argue that less violence in prisons will be beneficial for prison staff, who deserve not to be assaulted at work.

But money and resources have to be spent on keeping prisoners safe that could be better spent on keeping law-abiding people safe from lawbreakers.

Seems a bit ironic as people should be safe out of prison and not need to be victims

And the bad childhood didn't know what they were doing line gets old

I agree they should be a safe place. A man was just released after serving 17 years for a crime he didn't commit, a horrific attack and rape of a woman.

It's apparently being reported (in the Sun and Telegraph) that Huntley's machines were turned off earlier today and he was to "die" within "hours".

I say "die" because presumably he was brain dead already.

Thinking of the families and hope they don't get doorstepped by the (gutter) press. Presumably the authorities will make sure they have been informed before they make the announcement.

Yes he was 'brain dead' and kept alive by machines. So once tgey turn off death will come in time