To think prisoners should be safe in prison?

[BlueJuniper94]

Is this an unreasonable belief? I know Ian Huntley committed horrific crimes and I really do sympathise with the feelings that he deserves it in light of what his victims have suffered and continue to suffer.

BUT - this shouldn't be allowed to happen in prisons. Aibu?

Ooh he’s popped his clogs!

I don’t condone any crime but pretending being a murderous nonce and a robber are the same level
is crazy.

Ooh do you have a link?

Not sure if I'm picking you up wrong,IH attacker is a triple murderer and rapist
Robbery and violence tend to go hand in hand
Obviously nonces are despised with good reason.

In some ways it would have been good if he'd lived, so he could carry on fearing for his life everyday. But at least now we have one less child murderer taking oxygen.

It’s all over X but I’ve seen no official confirmations

fb - so may be wishful thinking!

Another violent man in need of locking up can now get a place in our overcrowded prisons. People going on about lower grade offenders - we are so over crowded those criminals get suspended sentences these days. Our prisons are for the worst offenders, not like 20 years ago.

It’s not been officially announced so we can safely say he’s still alive.

I find this whole thread sad. I’m a prison officer and see so many colleagues hospitalised by prisoners but your thought is the poor prisoners need to be kept safe and not a thought for the multitude of officers attacked each day

there is always the bleeding heart brigade who focus on the murderers and rapists and not the wider picture, the staff, the cost etc,

you do a difficult job, one I couldn’t do, and irs not paid enough. Ignore those prioritising the criminals.

Can't we aim to keep both safe? Surely it's not an either/or scenario.

Exactly

not to mention that a refusal to keep prisoners safe, hugely increases the risk of safety for prison staff

If you’re a paedo who has harmed children then I couldnt care less what happens to you

Tbh I don’t know too much about the attacker. I was commenting on someone saying all inmates were at the same level. Child murderers and nonces are the very bottom rank. There’s a lots of scale between them and other crimes. I’m not gonna spill any tears over IH or the person who did him in either way.

I cannot understand why such a dangerous prisoner had access to a metal bar. That needs looking into. I do not care for Ian Huntley but feel that prisons should be safe environments for staff and all prisoners.

Of course. But the thread is about keeping prisoners safe with no mention of staff. 1 officer to 40 prisoners is not a good enough ratio to keep anyone safe

Better they use their viciousness against each other than on innocent people. The prisoners in question are a double child murderer and a triple/quadruple murderer.

I will save my sympathy to the victims familes

Minor crimes; yes they can be rehabilitated
This prison wing filled with rapists, murderers, pedophiles etc can rot whilst killing each other.

If you're referring to prison staff being better protected, I totally agree

Or the recruitment policy of taking on youngsters that look they're heading on a night out.
And all the trouble that brings when they've been manipulated.

The prisoner who attacked him is no better than him. So all the celebrating leaves a nasty taste.

He murdered 3 victims, one of them a pregnant woman whom he lured into woodland before raping and murdering her. She was 5 months pregnant and she’d shown him the scan. He also denied raping her, forcing her family to have to go through a trial. He is on a whole life order too.

I hate the idea of him being praised online if IH does die. It's just a case of one psychopath attacking another.

For once, Huntley's attacker's did some good, though.

But if he is praised for it online it's a kick in the teeth for his own victims’ relatives.

We are talking specifically about prisoners tho.

Of course prison officers should be safe with enough staff and the right resources.

We can talk about one issue and it doesn't mean no other issue comes into question. That's too simplistic.