This country is doomed

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While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

Governments do rely on taxation, ffs. Where do you think the money for all the repayment and interest on borrowing comes from?

Managed how?

By abolishing the Home Office?

😂 lunatics.

There is a limit to how much a government can tax its constituents! There would be riots if they taxed enough to pay back all their borrowings.

Help families be together?

Give every resident the right to vote?

Abolish No Recourse to Public Funding?

Open Borders here we come!

Absolutely!

That’s why tax income has to be high enough to pay the interest and decrease the debt.

But it isn't enough!! And won't ever be unless public spending is cut to smithereens.

Your c&p doesn't specify that.

But other departments can manage immigration as they did before 2013.

Implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration

That’s why George Osborne’s master plan failed - he slashed and burned public services and still the debt went up. That’s why more tax is needed from the most wealthy.

It’s such a shame, I’ve got ‘Green Alternatives to Globalism’ by Caroline Lucas and Michael Woodin on my shelves. They used to think once. Open borders would have been a horror for the old greens, and the attitude that biological women with a brain should just fuck off quietly please would have been beyond abhorrent.

Sadly many institutions have been turned into their own anathema. We badly need an ecological organisation but the ‘Greens’ mock us all with their continuation of that name.

Well, it says "Dismantle the Home Office", so I'll say that's pretty much the same thing.

Absolutely. It doesn't work to do it even though it should make sense to do so. But there aren't enough billionaires here to cover the taxes needed. They are leaving the Titanic before it sinks.

They can leave. Their assets are still here to be taxed, they can’t take luxury flats with them.

What do you think managed immigration means?

They can sell them, even at a loss. They won't care.

Yes and there are taxes on that sale and then we tax whoever buys it!!! I'm going mad reading this thread of people acting as if they know it all when they're talking nonsense I'm off to bang my head against a wall

Fuck the luxury flats. Your thinking is so small if that's all you can think of.

They can take their investments and and their business and let us with soaring unemployment rates.

Who’s going to buy a tax liability?

https://news.sky.com/story/open-border-immigration-not-pragmatic-right-now-says-green-party-leader-13482491

Pretty words.

How do you manage migration without a Home office, and with every single financial and political incentive for everybody and their cousin to come here, get the right to vote, benefits and housing?

If they stay and pay great. If they don’t, this. What are the odds? Which is more likely.

https://migration.greenparty.org.uk/migration-policy/

This what their website says.

This country is fucked because I watched a news item about children being homeless and sleeping on the streets. Children ffs.

So the billionaires and their luxury flats and tax dodges can get fucked.