At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5lnzqdr5pt

Can’t see a thread on this. What a tragic situation.

yes, they are being failed by this ideology.

And we are called transphobes for wanting them to have proper mental health support rather than being immediately affirmed.

Make it make sense.

There were 473 school shootings in the US 2019 - 2025 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000%E2%80%93present) ). So far in this thread there's been three, maybe four of those that were perpetrated by trans-identifying people. That's less than 1% of school shootings which even the most innumerate of people wouldn't agree represents "the vast majority".

As for trans-identifying people being "certainly over-represented", there's a range of figures for how many of the US population is trans-identifying but figures of around 1% overall seem common, eg https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ although numbers for the age range more likely to shoot up a school tend to be higher. So less than 1% of school shooters are trans-identifying against around 1% of the population identifying as trans. And that, to you, is them being "over-represented", is it?

Keep being scared of what the right-wing grifters tell you to be scared about. Your fears keep them rich.

It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter.

The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.

The statistics do not support the claims made here that transgender people are over represented in school shooting perpetrators.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Sure it’s totes all down to the right wing that many of these men fantasise about killing women.

https://terfisaslur.com/

Lol, sorry, but the williams 'institute' is a pro-trans think tank, it is not reliable and has put out 'studies' in the past that they have either had to retract or put out warnings that the data is unreliable. They're an absolute joke!

And no, us LEFT WING FEMINISTS fear men. Males. But you men with your Male Privilege and Toxic Masculinity think you know what we're about, but you don't. You don't listen to us so don't understand it's about male vs female. Not anything else.

No, that is not the shooter. There has been some confusion, but the individual you posted is too old.

I don't think transpeople are over represented, my observation is that men are. It would be highly unusual for a woman to have committed this crime. Not unheard of, but not usual.

Wikipedia and the Williams Institute are the only
sources ever mentioned by TRAs. So predictable.

A man in a dress has killed his mother, his sister, and multiple children.

So he has now added to the statistics.

We do not need to be ashamed for pointing this out.

But it’s strange that of the very few women who have committed mass shootings,
3 of them have been trans identified females.

It's hatred of males. Not transwomen.

You are attacking the messenger. Per capita of 'trans', they most certainly are over-represented from their community. You should be ashamed of trying to silence discussion and burying the facts.

Fair enough. I'm not so deeply steeped in the trans / anti-trans culture wars to know that kind of thing off the top of my head.

What figures did you use to arrive at the conclusion that trans-identifying people are "certainly over represented" as perpetrators of school shootings? I've shown my sources, show us yours.

Quite.

Gosh, don't goalposts move quickly these days?

I think it's an obvious given that on a parenting site most people will have huge sympathy for the breaved parents and affected teens - who saw or who were injured or who lost friends.

Sadly the most shocking thing about school shooting these days - and is here - it's it happened outside the USA.

I am fed up with the reporting - mass murdered can't be misgendered - vunerable kids public should be on look out for can't be misgenedered - dangerous individual like convicted rapists can't be misgendered in print - it doesn't make the public safer - it normalises misinformation.

This is a huge tragedy that this mentally unwell individual - because it's not act of well person - got hold of a gun rather than mental health help they clearly needed.

If them identiftiying as trans was a barrier to mental health help then that needs raisng now - as does tighter gun control - it' apparently down to each area in Canada and this one has most guns - because if it's not done now it won't happen - and chances of somthing like this happening again are so much higher.

Yes. Shame on anyone who values ideology above human life.

Whether it’s sex fetishism or mental illness, the link between transgenderism and increased risk of sex abuse or violence becomes more obvious with every horrific event.

Pretending transgenderism is a harmless ‘identity’ is both dishonest and dangerous. In girls/women it leads more often to self-harm through drugs and surgery. Men turn the violence outwards against other people.

Elevated testosterone levels?

Snochia Moseley, 2018, one of the very few female shooters and the other that identified as “trans” in some way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Aberdeen,_Maryland_shooting

The concept that children can change sex requires a huge leap of faith. Especially is they’ve been puberty blocked then placed on cross sex hormones - for boys who have started this in early puberty they’ll never have an orgasm and will be infertile.

This can only be considered an acceptable trade-off if you believe that transitioning is the correct thing to do, that the individual will be happier and function well in society.

Stories like this go against the narrative that transitioning children, without question, is the right thing to do. We do need to talk about it.

I'm not a "TRA" so please don't use that slur with me.

If you think my numbers are wrong then fine, give your sources. The wikipedia article simply counts school shootings without any mention of the perpetrator's views on sex or gender. Should I assume it's wrong? How many school shootings in the US do you think have happened since 2019?

I used the Williams Institute simply because that was the one that came up first in a google search I just did. I'd never heard of it before and I'm not so engrained in the minutia of the trans / anti-trans wars to instantly recognise it as one that takes any particular side. What do you think the percentage of the US population is that's trans-identifying?

Yes I imagine that’s part of it but I think the mental health problems/personality disorders are probably similar to the men. The testosterone might be the reason they are over represented among female shooters.

This is a massive tragedy for all involved.

There is no better time though, to make sure information is accurate so that falsehoods stop replicating forever on the internet.

There is absolutely no proper confirmation - yet - that the shooter is trans.

Even if they are trans, there is absolutely no evidence that their trans identity is related to the motivation for the shooting.

This is not the time to get on a soapbox or speculate.

Let's wait until we have some facts.

Why of all mass shootings by women (men are more likely to regardless of anything else) are trans identified females so overrepresented? There have only been a tiny number of female mass shooters going back decades (probably less than ten). 3 of them are trans identified females. So you are wrong on that figure, despite your hasty google search.

Exactly.