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ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:15

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likelysuspect · 11/02/2026 10:16

Christ alive.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:16

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It's hardly an 'agenda' when it's the TRUTH. Sorry the truth is inconvenient to you. But it is what it is. Ignoring it and blaming the messenger won't change anything or solve anything.

SpaceRaccoon · 11/02/2026 10:16

This is why the affirmation model of "treatment" is cruel and dangerous.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:18

likelysuspect · 11/02/2026 10:16

Christ alive.

Imagine bumping into him when you come out of the loo.

Bagsintheboot · 11/02/2026 10:20

The suspect has not yet been formally identified.

We should not be posting photos or names until this has happened. Social media isn't proper verification.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:24

DotAndCarryOne2 · 11/02/2026 09:37

The immediate aftermath of a tragedy like this is not the time or place for such a discussion.

Oh, "thoughts and prayers", right? You sound like the Republicans who say after a mass shooting' that 'this is not the time' to discuss gun control.

The fact is the trans community have a disproportionately larger number of shooters/mass shooters. And, as statistics from the UK, Canada, US and NZ show, an enormously larger amount of sex offenders (5 times higher than all other males). There is something seriously going on here. Is it the drugs they are given? Is it the entitlement to do as they please, regardless of who it hurts, as they are an untouchable sacred caste? What is it exactly? It really needs looking into, and yes, now is the time. Just as it is to discuss gun control laws. People have been trying to warn about this for a long, long time, but nobody is listening. If it were any other group, it would have been called out by now. But this is an untouchable sacred caste. Why? Why are they?

Whatisthisdamnednonsense · 11/02/2026 10:24

”Woman in a dress”: Even mass murderers are pandered to in their delusions, creating confusion when black and white facts are crucial.

Slow hand clap for Canada’s tenacity in toeing the gender ideology line 🤦🏻‍♀️

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:26

Newyearsameme26 · 11/02/2026 09:40

I said to my 12 year old daughter this morning that this isn't a woman's crime and we must be careful of any reporting from Canada. And it's fucking true. And no it shouldn't be our focus, but it is as we are absolutely sick of it. These boys with mental health issues need a different approach to affirmation.

Exactly. #NotOURCrimes

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:27

People died and you idiots are arguing over the sex of the shooter 🤦🏻‍♀️ some of you need to get jobs

nolongersurprised · 11/02/2026 10:27

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I understand that that dude was initially identified by “the internet” as the shooter, but it’s this guy instead.

never been mistaken as a woman though

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 11/02/2026 10:27

MissAustenMadeAQuilt · 11/02/2026 07:57

I suppose the next thing will be that this terrible crime will be recorded as committed by a woman and the stat produced when these people want to say that women also commit mass shootings.

Women commit about 2% of mass shootings. So very rare, but not unprecedented.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/02/2026 10:28

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:27

People died and you idiots are arguing over the sex of the shooter 🤦🏻‍♀️ some of you need to get jobs

No. We’re pointing out that adherence to a batshit ideology has made people less safe in the communications during the crisis and trying to stop further tragedies. HTH

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:29

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:16

It's hardly an 'agenda' when it's the TRUTH. Sorry the truth is inconvenient to you. But it is what it is. Ignoring it and blaming the messenger won't change anything or solve anything.

But that's the thing - the claim that the vast majority of school shootings are perpetrated by trans-identifying people simply isn't the TRUTH. It demonstrably and provably is false, no matter how much agenda-pushing right-wing media might try to make you think otherwise.

<1% of school shootings were done by trans-identifying people. Pretending otherwise and spreading blatant, easily-disproved lies won't change anything or solve anything. Facts don't care about your feelings.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:29

DotAndCarryOne2 · 11/02/2026 09:47

Clearly not. The shelter in place warning was an emergency and relied on an accurate description of the shooter to protect the public. And the best description at the time was female, brown hair, wearing a dress. I don’t imagine the priority of the authorities at that point was to verify if the shooter actually was female, when how they presented was the critical factor.

I'm sure though that anyone who got a good look at the shooter knew quite well it wasn't female. Unless they were blinder than Stevie Wonder. So the question is why not say a male with long hair, etc etc?

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:30

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:29

But that's the thing - the claim that the vast majority of school shootings are perpetrated by trans-identifying people simply isn't the TRUTH. It demonstrably and provably is false, no matter how much agenda-pushing right-wing media might try to make you think otherwise.

<1% of school shootings were done by trans-identifying people. Pretending otherwise and spreading blatant, easily-disproved lies won't change anything or solve anything. Facts don't care about your feelings.

That is certainly not what the statistics show.

And, per capita of their community, they are certainly over-represented.

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:31

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/02/2026 10:28

No. We’re pointing out that adherence to a batshit ideology has made people less safe in the communications during the crisis and trying to stop further tragedies. HTH

Again people died. This is stupid. HTH

Arraminta · 11/02/2026 10:32

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:29

I'm sure though that anyone who got a good look at the shooter knew quite well it wasn't female. Unless they were blinder than Stevie Wonder. So the question is why not say a male with long hair, etc etc?

You certainly wouldn't have needed 'a good look' to ascertain he was a man FFS! He looks like a shed in a dress.

Newyearsameme26 · 11/02/2026 10:33

Again people died. This is stupid. HTH

But they might not have were it not for this dangerous ideology.

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2026 10:33

Well I think it is disrespectful to the victims NOT to mention that this shooter was a man with a trans identity.

People who want to hide this fact are creating a sacred caste.

Children have been killed FFS.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:35

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:30

That is certainly not what the statistics show.

And, per capita of their community, they are certainly over-represented.

I would agree with that. I haven’t claimed they are the “majority”. I do think they’re overrepresented in the last decade.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:36

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:27

People died and you idiots are arguing over the sex of the shooter 🤦🏻‍♀️ some of you need to get jobs

Maybe think a little deeper than surface level. It matters on two counts: accurate warning information which is vital, and two, ascribing crimes to women that are not womens crimes, meaning data is skewed. But too many people are puddle depth thinkers.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:37

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:29

But that's the thing - the claim that the vast majority of school shootings are perpetrated by trans-identifying people simply isn't the TRUTH. It demonstrably and provably is false, no matter how much agenda-pushing right-wing media might try to make you think otherwise.

<1% of school shootings were done by trans-identifying people. Pretending otherwise and spreading blatant, easily-disproved lies won't change anything or solve anything. Facts don't care about your feelings.

To “disprove it” you need to link to your source. We need to see what the claim is based on. How far back? Trans stuff has only been a mass thing in the last decade or so.

SnowdropCrocus · 11/02/2026 10:37

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:31

Again people died. This is stupid. HTH

Stop arguing and get a job.

nolongersurprised · 11/02/2026 10:39

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2026 10:33

Well I think it is disrespectful to the victims NOT to mention that this shooter was a man with a trans identity.

People who want to hide this fact are creating a sacred caste.

Children have been killed FFS.

The sacred caste of trans is why disturbed, mentally unwell boys/men can’t access proper psychological help when they also decide they are girls. Everything is affirming only, or it’s “conversion therapy”.

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