At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5lnzqdr5pt

Can’t see a thread on this. What a tragic situation.

Not really, no. Do you think the first time these people think about violence is when they pick up a gun and start shooting people?

But yes, I’m sure it’s very important to uphold “trans rights” at all costs and no one should be monitoring the ones who threaten to kill people.

You always have to assume Wiki is wrong, even the man who invented it has been saying so for years.

Problem is, when there is a hint of this ideology, facts are not top of the agenda.

Those goalposts really are moving all over the place today, aren't they? I thought this thread was about a school shooting allegedly perpetrated by a trans-identifying man. Are we now only interested in trans-identifying women?

I've given you my sources and you're free to dispute them. What are yours?

But the facts are already known. What we are angry about is that they are not being conveyed accurately.

I just heard a Times Radio report about it saying that the BC police had talked about a female suspect, then conclued with "the suspect then killed themselves". They know, alright.

OK. How many school shootings in total do you think there have been in the US since, say, 2019? And on what source do you base that number?

I imagine there is quite a crossover between incels and trans-indentified young men of the type who are straight, not the gay and naturally effeminate type. They are the losers and the loners who don't gel with people of either sex and feel rejected by everybody. They hate women because women have no interest in them, but at the same time they are fascinated by them and have the strong conviction that women have everything easier, better and fairer. Hence they decide that cosplaying a woman is the answer to their problems.

I'm struggling to keep up, you hate all males now?

The facts are not already known.

You think you know the facts based on some initial reports and social media.

Those two things are not the same.

There has been more than one occasion where everyone "knows" a killer is e.g. Muslim or an immigrant at first. Just look at the speculation regarding that stabbing in Leicester the other week.

We need to wait for formal confirmation from the Canadian authorities. Anything else is just speculation.

Apparently we're not supposed to use wikipedia as a source.

And don’t forget that these men spend hours on the internet where they encounter trans ideology an porn, lots of porn

You can use it as a source just be aware that it is run by Trans Activists so the facts are not always facts. Again, this is from the guy that invented it.

They’re not moving anywhere. I made it clear why I think it’s absolutely relevant that a proportion of these men are sitting in their bedsits fantasising about violence against women they disagree with. It IS a problem, whatever biased nonsense you’ve lapped up from the Williams Institute.

Ive already mentioned on this thread and others when other trans identifying people have committed mass shootings that I’m interested in trans identifying women because the proportion is high. It’s not what I would expect, so I’ve been struck by it.

I only used it as a source because I checked that the information is correct. Wikipedia is agenda-driven and biased though, we’re you not aware of that?

I absolutely agree with you that we should be questioning and considering all the evidence on gender affirming care, and it's a complex issue. My understanding is that the alleged shooter had not received any hormone treatment though.

People are mistrustful of the media with reports on TiMs though, aren’t they? Just watch, it’ll be female pronouns and a paucity of background information as purposeful obfuscation.

Indeed. The incel to trans pipeline.

Canada, especially BC, is fully captured. They will call him a woman, a female suspect, etc.

The minute they mentioned "a woman in a dress", we all knew.

I can't keep repeating myself.

We should wait for the formal identification and go from there.

Good. Please stop policing the rest of us, who can see the truth and read between the lines.

https://k12ssdb.org/all-shootings

There a school shooting data base - though it includes all cases where a gun is fired on school property it says.

It's fucking depressing that someone actaully keeping a database - I assume it's just US based as this is usually very much a US problem with spordic occurances in other countries.

Wikipedia is run by Trans Activists now? Gosh, I wasn't aware. So much information emerging on this thread, it's hard to keep up with the logic.

Even if it is a man it doesn’t mean it’s a trans person - could be a man using it Asa disguise to be less noticeable around a school - I don’t think you can presume.

The BC RCMP know who he is. And are calling him a female. It wasn't a "disguise", it was an identity.