At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5lnzqdr5pt

Can’t see a thread on this. What a tragic situation.

The descriptor is usually factual though isnt it

A white male, 6 foot tall, wearing brown jeans and yellow top, clean shaven

So this would have or should have read, a white male, x foot tall, heavy build, wearing a blue dress, black hair.

Something like that.

Factual

What was the sex class split between killers in the data you were looking at?

This is absolutely terrible. How many more shootings until America finally realises the second amendment is fucked up?

The counts of school shootings in the US per year on wikipedia were just totals, not broken out by sex. If I had to hazard a guess I'd say that 99+% were perpetrated by men.

This happened in Canada.

Well its in Canada who have tight gun laws so the pro gun lobby is making merry with this incident of course.

Canada.

It was one of them new women you know the ones with c**ks

Yes. Still America in every way culturally. The second amendment applies in society.

I am giving that poster an opening to explore why any view which is about women is classed as "anti-trans".

It is rather obvious that if one can label the person or issue "anti-trans" one can lable the person or issue "transphobic" etc

Which is imo why NHS Fife ended up with a head of an ED wanting to call the police on a woman who said she did not want to change her clothing in what should have been the Womens Changing room.

How the senior manager came to believe calling the police was an appropiate reaction is an interesting question on social engineering.

Why are you spouting this nonsense on two different threads 🙄

Canada is not America. Just like a man isn't a woman.

I read on BBC that it was the Candian area with the highest gun ownership in Canada.

Canada has lower gun owership than USA and a much lower muder involving guns - but higher than us in UK who have even stricter gun controls.

The pro gun lobby in US keeps on about knife crime in UK - they may not have guns but have knife crime - our knife crime is below their's still.

So don't suppose facts matter much to the pro gun lobby - there never have before.

It doesn’t really matter whether trans identified people are over or under represented as perpetrators of mass shootings. Either way, the numbers involved would be too small to have much statistical relevance. What does matter though is that (a) there is accurate reporting, and (b) it’s clear that males are over represented.

www.statista.com/statistics/476445/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-gender/?srsltid=AfmBOooPLsTsJCwbO1T5Zgh6VhknzjdnwEqyYm0EC8RDZUxUk1MA-r0K

These points matter for a number of reasons, but partly so that people can understand the highest risk factors and try to intervene before these horrific events happen. It’s also pretty obvious that a male who starts identifying as a woman (or wearing a dress) is not automatically less of a risk than other men or boys. It’s just gaslighting to suggest otherwise.

A 17 year old is not a man or woman. They’re a child.

They are not.

It's why the 51 State stuff from Trump has turned into a massive boycott of US goods- that many US citizens apparently don't understand as they think it about tariffs and not insulting candian national pride.

Exactly. What that poster really means to say is that they are anti-women. Because if being pro-women is 'anti-trans', then pro-trans is anti-women.

I know that Canada is not legally recognised as a state of United States technically, I know that. They are different countries technically.

But what I am saying that, culturally, Canada and the United States are one and the same. They are both America.

Like how England and Scotland are both different countries but are both Britain, even if they have different laws.

So
If 99% was male killers

Then looking at the % of Trans Iding Males (TIM) and Trans Iding Females (TIF) means the quoted % is moved when taken at a population level.

1% of TIM + TIF
1% of TIM

There is a difference and lots of reports fail to pick up on that.

No no no

England and Scotland are both part of the political unit of the UK.

Canada and America are both part of a geographical unit of 'North America'

They are not 'technically' different countries, they are completely different countries socially, politically, in sovereignty. They share the same continent, in the way France does with Spain

They also share membership of various organisations and governing bodies just like France shares with Spain or we do with Germany

Thats all there is to it

You shouldnt be linking them in that way

No.

There have very different outlooks and laws. USA and Canada are not techincally different countires they are different countries - in every way.

They elect different govenments with different system with different laws - have their own miltary and have different history to US and while they currently coperate they are still different independent countries and have different passports - documents usually needed to travel to other countries.

Scotland and England have differences in law - and some difference in goverance - but they are in a Union with England to make up the country of the UK - the United Kingdom. UK law still applied to everyone in UK with some local variations but regional pareliments can not overide UK laws.

The UK is made up of three countries England, Wales and Scotland and one providence N.I. While three of those have regional parliments/assemblies we are still all voting in one election for UK ie westminster government- we still have one lot of armed forces - we have one overall government and we still sign International Treaties* *with other countries with that one government - we still have same passports to travel aboard all UK passports. The countries in UK would be better compared to states in US - some local automomy and differences in law though that is not a perfect analogy.

The situations are entirely different.

No the USA and Canada are not the same. Not even 'technically'.

Canada head of state is a King - the same one who is head of state in UK - and is like UK is a constitutional monarchy at the moment.

US famously doesn't currently have a King and is not a constitutional monarchy but has an elected head of state the US president.

What is your point?

A 17 year old is classed "a man" not "a woman" if he male.

A 17 year old male may legaly be a child but he would¹ old enough to understand what he decided to do was unlawful and that a mass murder of friends and family is wrong.

A 17 year old male would be old enough to stand trial¹ to answer for his choices if he was captured in time by law enforcement.

¹usual blabla re MH

Oh how did you do that small 1?

Overwhelming majority perpetrated by men - whether they wear a dress or not.