At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5lnzqdr5pt

Can’t see a thread on this. What a tragic situation.

I already cited the source but here it is again - https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

But oh look - once again you're making claims and providing zero sources. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

...well not that shocked.

Yes, the ONS had to admit their own data wasn’t robust.

I’m not all that interested in your poorly informed opinions personally. Do another half arsed google and think what you like. I am interested in looking at how the WI got that 1% figure.

If you want to find out who did it, its on X. MSM lying as usual.

The questions are is this an increasing trend and are trans people over-represented in the demographics of school shooters (i.e. both categories skew young, so maybe not). You might even argue we don[t know the gender of school shooters past, only their sex.

I agree that the BBC has to wait for facts and not report on officially unsubstantiated social media gossip. Remember how Christoper Jefferies was thrown to the lions by unscrupulous press outlets.

'Advanced statistical modelling' from biased sources, innit

Using data from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, the Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance System, and advanced statistical modeling,

Not that I believe in the word or construct of 'gender' but what you say is interesting in that school shooters/mass shooters of the past, how many went on to later claim trans identity?

I think many get killed perhaps so that may skew it.

Sure, it's much easier for you to continue making wild-arsed claims if you don't need to back them up, isn't it?

Note your classification "trans / anti-trans wars" not that it is a Womens Rights issue of #notourcrimes.

You could examine why you phrased it that way.

Why there is no focus on a discussion on Womens Rights to have society and the law recognise that female only single sex should actually mean and be actually female only.

In this case that the killer be recorded as a male and be included in the list of male killers who carried out mass murder of children in their own community.

If people use the term “anti trans” they are a TRA. It’s an activist term. I’m a feminist, gender critical if I have to have a label. It’s a women’s rights issue and women’s rights is why we are so concerned. I don’t want violent, resentful men having a free pass to women’s spaces which the pp probably thinks is perfectly acceptable.

Also, we can look at the numbers of “trans women” that have committed other violent crimes, and that is vastly higher than women.

Yes, or that trans has always been more prevalent than we think but that people lived closeted. It's a possibility.

Depending on how the incidents are categorised, there have been between mid-hundreds to low-thousands of school shootings in the US over the last six years.

If only four of those hundreds/thousands of incidents were perpetrated by any one identifiable demographic then there's simply not enough statistical significance available to predict whether or not there's a trend emerging.

Agreed, though you would also need to compare the timeline and see if there is an emergent cluster compared to rising rates of trans ID. I am not an expert but I son't think the data is statistically significant yet but still worth keeping an eye on.

It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter. The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.

And there we have it, folks... women criticising gender ideology and calling a man a man because they refuse to lie about reality is just as bad as a man committing mass murder.

And they expect us to believe they don't know who the women are.

This is the country which had the State sue (on behalf of a male) multiple women who objected to waxing his balls and something like 40 legal firms would not take the womens money to provide legal representation. The State concluded the it was only because the women did not have the training to wax his ladyballs that he was not discriminated against.
[(Edit) all the women only provided waxing services to women so actively and openly discriminated against men.]

The only reason the local media ran any coverage was that a woman attended the case tweeted and provided the International media with headline stories.

And fyi a "trans man" is a female (the non-bepenised kind of human)

Oh I missed that!!

Equally reprehensible.

Wow.

I am literally (literal violence and all) on the scale of a mass killer

I never knew?

I missed it too.

Fucking abhorrent.

I've never seen the words 'Man, wearing trousers'...

I’d missed that hyperbole as well. Ridiculous.

it a description of the attacker just like when Derick Bird and went on the rampage.

It's not an accurate description, though.

Because the shooter wasn't a woman.

‘Trans / anti-trans wars’

Blimey. What a dichotomy?

What ever happened to it being a positive to support female people through feminism and to campaign for female people to have protections and equitable solutions?

instead we get told discussions on whether accurate language describing a male person’s crime is considered a trans / anti -trans war. Good to know.

Yes the UK census ran 2 questions which was in part supposed to cover the information gap State agencies has under Equality Act 2010.

The ONS opted for 2 gender identity question on being "trans" the second question asked people to lable themselves.
They were warned in advance that the question was badly worded and would likely produce no usefull information.

This proved to be true and the collected data was downgraded.

The list of lables can even be downloaded and the data is interesting in so far as the staff had to fit them into 4 Gender Identy classes 2 of which have no legal protections under the Equality Act 2010.

Lets not forget Derby Evening Telegraph who put out an alert for a sex offender prison escapee described as 'woman might be dressed as a man'.

Readers, it WAS a man.