Labour increase benefits bill. AIBU To think what’s the point in working?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15520831/Labours-push-lift-two-child-benefits-cap-hand-25-000-windfalls-thousands-Britains-biggest-jobless-families.html#

‘Official estimates suggest the cost of scrapping the cap will total £13.6 billion over the next five years.

The Tories said families currently affected by the cap are in line to receive windfalls worth an average £25,000 each over that period.

But the biggest families will gain far more. Thousands of families with five children will receive around £10,900 a year while those with six children will get an extra £16,600 a year.
Almost half of the families involved have no one in work.‘

Disabled people tend to be priority for social housing because it is often the only way they can live in an accessible property.

It's the reason why i have social housing as my son is disabled and the previous property was deemed unsuitable for his needs by an OT assessment.

Oh dear still in denial! 😂😂!

She’s been gaming the system for decades her eldest 2 are just in to there 20s so she was getting child benefit for 3 children up until it was changed about 8 years ago. She lives the life of riley. She spaces them out to max out what she can get. Just had her fourth.

It’s everywhere so many chancers gaming the system!

If she worked and had to pay her rent and bills she wouldn’t be having 4 kids but it’s all paid for…courtesy of the mugs working.

She will be saying at least one of them are disabled or will claim to have a disability herself, maybe a touch of depression/anxiety/fybro and then the cap doesn't apply.

Child benefit isn't what changed, the child element of UC is what changed.

She can say what she wants but you need proof ,and yeah not just a patient says letter from the GP.

I have a disabled child. I must have missed the memo where it's as simple as just saying that your child is disabled.

That Is exactly what she is doing….as soon as she pops one out she is pushing for an ADHD diagnosis and all sorts …she gets a heck of a lot each month and no rent to pay etc.
It is wrong and sickening and this is all over …she is the tip of the iceberg.

You know nothing about disability or the extra costs of being chair and housebound ....pip goes towards lots of extra things but doesnt cover all. We get a carer twice a day for 15 mins each time supposed to get up, wash, dress, prepare food, give meds, set out drinks in that 15 mins.....what level of care do you think you get in that time? So have to pay extra......didcounts on f..c.ing outings how the f..k does she get there which carer takes her in a lay down..f...ing wheelchair ...please tell me what job she can do

You need proof for a diagnosis of ADHD .

She claims PIP for herself anxiety has done for years …it is mind boggling what she is given each month.

I know and I understand the reasons around it.
I still think we need to start priorities working people instead of putting them at the bottom of the queue and telling them to be grateful for a zero hours job in a warehouse or care home. If that was my life, with no hope of my own place or moving forward I'd be depressed as well. We have to look after working people so they can keep working. I remember a disabled person on one of these threads arguing that she should have more spare/fun money than her carer because the carer could just get a better paying job. And I'm sure you've heard the screams of outrage if a carer dares be so frivolous as to buy a Costa.
Ultimately though, social housing shouldn't be in short supply, it should be landlord of first resort not last.

She will still need proof.

She's a horrible vile person living off the taxpayer. Yet this government are unable to tackle the welfare state.

You've clearly never seen a pip form or had an assessment?

We wouldn't need to be coached if the assessment process was fair

So report her?

I don't understand why people are so excited to rile everyone up on here over the benefits claimants they know who are definitely scrounging and admit to being on the fiddle while doing little evil villain mustache twirls - but people don't just report them?

she was getting child benefit for 3 children up until it was changed about 8 years ago

What changes were there 8 years ago?

Are you getting confused between child benefit and the 2-child benefit cap?

She’s a pro she got PIP years ago she was anxious and she got it. She has lived off the back of the taxpayer for years and years. Kids on a conveyor belt and rolling in benefits …never worked or paid rent.

The government have enabled this. There should be a limit.

So 💃 report 💃 her 💃

Will interpretive dance get through to you?

For now. Her karma is incoming......

Wouldn't you then just be doing the same to disabled people? Some who would love to be able to work but simply aren't able to?

We'd be homeless if we weren't offered an accessible property for my son. The previous house wasn't an option which is why we were offered social housing.

She’s one of millions pulling these stunts!

The answer is restrict benefits and a radical shake up of all benefits and limits put in place.

Change starts small; why not report her? You have all the details of her life judging by what you've shared on here. If you don't report her, you're basically enabling her.

The current level of benefits are simply unaffordable. This government knows it, but they also know they will be out of power in a few years time so they are going to continue down this path and leave a mess for the next government to untangle/clean up. Unless of course they mess it up so royally that Britain goes bust and we need some sort of bail out - in which case they will be forced to stop spending money we don't have a bit sooner.

Plenty of other countries in the world don't have a welfare state as generous as ours and people adapt because they have to.

It wouldn't need to be stringent and "unfair" if people didn't game it.

Life is unfair.

People taking the piss is why you have to jump through hoops.

I stand by what I said.

and having to jump through hoops is a reason why even genuine people are often coached.