Do friends of rich people have no shame?

[NotDarkGothicMama]

Reading about the Epstein files, the first thing that struck me was the awful photo of Andrew kneeling over what looks like a very young woman, looking extremely pervy.

The second thing was the emails from people like Fergie and Peter Madelson's husband asking for money. "I need 20 grand for rent, today." "I need 10 grand for an osteopath course." Have they no shame whatsoever? Surely if you're friends with a rich person, you're very careful not to mention financial needs so they don't think you're only after their cash? Let alone actually ask for handouts!

Epstein had a meteoric career. He wasn't the brightest coin in a purse so who funded him and who was he working for and why?

The shame is not asking for money but associating with someone is a pedophile and a vile abusive individual.
These powerful well known individuals who mixed with him have no morals, humanity empathy or social responsibility for mankind. That is the shame.

I think most friends of rich people wouldn’t do this. I’m friends with someone who is a multi millionaire, like tens and tens of millions. If we get a take away I always offer money for my share. She will say no but I take the cash and offer it. I wouldn’t dream of asking her for money for anything.

I was thinking blackmail when I read the OP. Is that what you mean?

I think a lot of them have no shame.

But the very rich are above the law so there is little or no consequences.

I think if people are grasping they have no shame. One thing that struck me on a trial with people demanding money is the way they asked and the poor way to do so, spelling terrible, urgency and just the lack of it.

The messages in this reminded me of that.

The photos of Andrew crawling on top of what to me looks like a girl rather than woman purely by her size and build are too grim to put into words.

Of course he has no shame, he did the stupid TV interview where he barefaced lied about poor Virginia Giuffre and claimed the photo of him was doctored because he can’t sweat and was in pizza express that weekend. As for his ex wife, she still hangs out with him despite divorcing like 20 years ago because she’s so desperate for status.

Also gross content about Bill Gates and Clinton. Shame on Hillary as well for continuing to stand by the letch. Kinda glad she didn’t become president, she’s no feminist and no, that doesn’t mean Trump was a better option…

I agree, about the 3 "CPR" pics. He looks like he's checking for responses. The person in question is either unconscious or pretending to be 🤔

Epstein was not stupid and he knew how to manipulate shallow people with very low (zero) morals who 100% fell for the persona and their attitudes allowed him to get away with the horrific crimes he did for so long He knew to 'collect' people and being free with money was one way.
His power, by being rich and generous had sycophants lining up to be ingratiated into his 'generous world' and totally losing their bloody sense of right/wrong.
There's no excuse for anyone to overlook what was going on and how.those.who continued to fawn over him AFTER he went to prison is beyond belief.
I would imagine that there's still a lot if info, and some very worried people waiting for their names to be linked to him. Stupidity and greed .

So this is the faintly pathetic part - there was an investigation into where Epstein's money came from, and it turns out, he stole it. He was always a crook.

These people are kissing up to a conman, as well as a rapist paedophile.

I never understood why Mandy was employed, he’d had dodgy dealings in the past and had a reputation for many years.

He loved the rich lifestyle and aspired to it. Seemingly like everyone else. Private island, free pass for whatever, beautiful people. Can see why everyone was taken in. Jeffrey was prob everyones friend. Money, friendship, contacts. No one cared about how/why/what if? He facilitated everything. Only the spoon you used when eating with the Devil wasn't long enough.

When I was travelling I met an alderley gent who ran away to sea and then settled in Hong Kong when he was 17, after being brought up in an aristocratic household. He made his fortune by himself aftet that.
He told me lot's of stories and why he ran away. Absolutely nothing surprises me about the epstein files and all the subsequent revelations.
This guy told me aome of the most shocking and disgusting things I have ever heard and it there were many people involved and there were many children involved.

Most of the people who have asked us for money are comparatively well off - they’re not as wealthy as we are, but they’re not poor. We’ve been asked to pay private school fees when they “found themselves short” that term, to pay for the flights so we can all go stay in another well off friend’s holiday home etc etc. These are not poor people, they just want a lifestyle they can’t quite sustain, which I think is really similar to Mandy and fergie and others.

I did think Fergie was a spectacular brown noser and shameless in the way she asked for the rent money so agree OP

I think we’re being given the sacrificial lambs.
I also think that if they were on the hook already, so would and could be blackmailed if their puppetmaster felt like it, they thought they might as well get something out of it.

I think the question should be do friends of paedophiles have no shame.

When is Trump going to resign?

Well, they shouldn't!

The thing is we all know the sorts of things they’ve been up to, but they’ve been very careful to tie up loose ends - Epstein himself also Jean-Luc Brunel (another tragic prison “suicide”). So we’re only left with a ton of circumstantial evidence and personal accusations. I suspect others in the know, probably including some other guilty parties/staff members etc, may come out one day, maybe on their death beds. Then we will all tut tut say how awful those powerful people were but at least they’re all dead now, and how could we have elected leaders and worshipped celebrities like these, but it won’t happen again ever we’re sure about that ….

My sixpence worth:

• Epstein was a pervert who enjoyed corrupting others.
• Grifters such as AMW/SF/PM had to ask for financial favours.
• People had to ask to be invited to parties.
• Having to ask removed deniability.
• CIA/MI6/KGB/whoever rewarded/protected Epstein for giving them the dirt on the people he corrupted.
• AMW was the late queen's favourite. He was being sidelined towards the end of her life but the big stripping of titles could only happen once she died.
• AMW & SF had titles stripped because at some point they may appear in court either as witnesses or in the dock (financial dealings). Without titles they will appear in court papers as plain Mr/Mrs/Ms. The RF is playing a long game.

Andrew is obviously an absolute idiot, but he’s also a good fall guy for the whole thing. His arrogance was such that he clearly presumed being Queenie’s favourite and the the largely fawning attitude Brits/the media have toward the institution of monarchy would be sufficient to keep him safe. So he didn’t have any guard up at all. While many others were a lot smarter than him in not posing for dozens of pics while drunk or coked up or whatever he was on, and by the sounds of some of the excerpts got up to a lot worse than even Andrew.

If you listen to lownies book Epstein was a sophisticated blackmailer. A comment was made that Andrew was totally out of his depth and clueless it was like putting a python in with a rabbit

Yeah, it's almost like they are just claiming to have forgotten...

Oh puhleeeze.

If you think corruption at the top of society is restricted to capitalist economies you've not been reading the right books or watching the right documentaries.