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Do friends of rich people have no shame?

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NotDarkGothicMama · 01/02/2026 21:43

Reading about the Epstein files, the first thing that struck me was the awful photo of Andrew kneeling over what looks like a very young woman, looking extremely pervy.

The second thing was the emails from people like Fergie and Peter Madelson's husband asking for money. "I need 20 grand for rent, today." "I need 10 grand for an osteopath course." Have they no shame whatsoever? Surely if you're friends with a rich person, you're very careful not to mention financial needs so they don't think you're only after their cash? Let alone actually ask for handouts!

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ThejustbrothersCarlenaNSoul · 03/02/2026 08:57

I know its all relative the amounts of money tapped by Fergie and Mandelson came from a billionaire.
But tapping 20grand to pay the rent is mental ,it shows they live in a different world to us little people.

EasternStandard · 03/02/2026 09:26

Skinnysaluki · 02/02/2026 22:45

You 100% can. He’s been running it from behind since the Kinnock years.
All of the faction around Starmer are his people.
Labour were happy to boot out Corbyn (who Mandelson orchestrated all the smears on) but wouldn’t have even booted Mandelson out over this- he resigned.
And he will still have Morgan McSweeney and Wes Streeting on speed dial even now. And those not in his faction are petrified of him.
He will take Starmer down with him as he goes.
He’s been fully and publicly egregious for about 40 years and no one in Labour ever really wanted to stop him or he’d never have been allowed back after his first disgrace.
He is the kind of traitor who makes me wish the Tower of London still housed them.

Yep there’s a reason Starmer got him back.

Stopbringingmicehome · 03/02/2026 09:39

If Starmer didn't know about Mandelson there should be an investigation on why he wasn't vetted properly. If Starmer did know about Mandelson there should be an investigation.

Dragonflytamer · 03/02/2026 09:45

It seems to have come out that Mandleson was leaking insider government information to help Epstein to make money. If someone working at a bank did that they would be going to prison.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/02/2026 09:46

Andrew the snivelling sweaty entitled man was the prize pig for Epstein to manipulate to have free range and access in the UK, easily bought, easily influenced, like bill gates, Trump and all the other dirty little men.
They never anticipated the #metoo, the mountains of stored evidence, internet detectives.
I hope justice is served.
Delighted for them.

GCSEBiostruggles · 03/02/2026 10:07

I think it is also partly about bribery - these people knew what he was up to and had dirt on him. Fergie is clearly terrible with money and also knew her husband was shagging everything that moved in Epstein's house, no matter the age. I think the same is true of Mandleson's partner and they both saw an easy way to keep their bank balance healthy for their turning a blind eye to what he was enabling for their partner's sex predilections while they all get to throw titles around for social lubricant

GCSEBiostruggles · 03/02/2026 10:09

What has really surprised me from the files is the level of reading and writing of these billionaires! Could Epstein only do maths?

Glitterella · 03/02/2026 10:29

GCSEBiostruggles · 03/02/2026 10:09

What has really surprised me from the files is the level of reading and writing of these billionaires! Could Epstein only do maths?

Yes! Emails read like teenagers have typed. I would imagine this was before WhatsApp etc. as now days emails tend to be reserved for more formal communication whereas they were using it like a messenger app.

Dragonflytamer · 03/02/2026 10:42

Glitterella · 03/02/2026 10:29

Yes! Emails read like teenagers have typed. I would imagine this was before WhatsApp etc. as now days emails tend to be reserved for more formal communication whereas they were using it like a messenger app.

To be fair to him, I was wondering how Epstein managed to communicate with so many people. I have like 10 whatsapp groups and struggle to keep up!

EasternStandard · 03/02/2026 10:47

GCSEBiostruggles · 03/02/2026 10:09

What has really surprised me from the files is the level of reading and writing of these billionaires! Could Epstein only do maths?

I was on a fraud jury that was a first thought on their WhatsApp messages. Such a low level it was bizarre.

Dragonflytamer · 03/02/2026 11:43

Dragonflytamer · 03/02/2026 10:42

To be fair to him, I was wondering how Epstein managed to communicate with so many people. I have like 10 whatsapp groups and struggle to keep up!

Not that there is any need to be fair to a monster like Epstein of course!

Glitterella · 03/02/2026 11:52

Dragonflytamer · 03/02/2026 10:42

To be fair to him, I was wondering how Epstein managed to communicate with so many people. I have like 10 whatsapp groups and struggle to keep up!

I shudder to think what a WhatsApp group chat would look like in Epstein times.

NotDarkGothicMama · 03/02/2026 13:26

EsmaCannonball · 02/02/2026 23:59

The poor, working classes and disabled are endlessly shamed for taking any benefits, free school meals, mobility cars and so on, whereas the rich inhabit a world of endless favours, string-pulling, nepotism and networking and yet somehow manage to convince the world they've succeeded on talent, hard work and self-reliance alone. They seem completely unabashed about having their hands out for freebies all through life; and, of course, the less you need, the more people are willing to give you. It's just so odious that Mandelson and Fergie would rather grease up a paedophile than buy a smaller house.

Too right.

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JuliettaCaeser · 03/02/2026 13:49

Just seen a reel saying how men from nations that despise each other Iran / Iraq / Israel all came together in harmony to brutalise teenage girls.

The next time any fuckwit dares say “feminism has gone too far” ask him to point out a group of multi national middle aged women who have got together over many years to systematically abuse teenage boys.

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