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Do I end this based on hearsay.

211 replies

Emotionstorn · 29/01/2026 12:28

Been dating my partner since August. He has a child from a previous relationship but have no plans to introduce children until later.

He has told me him and his ex had quite a stormy breakup. Arguing etc and she told his friends and family that he hit her.

He denies this completely. Has sworn on the life of his child he has never done that.
I have experienced DV historically and I don’t know whether to walk away based on this or not.
There are no red flags or anything that I have seen myself

i just don’t know what to do

OP posts:
ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 17:26

All these people saying "proceed with caution"...

What does that mean? She would already be incautious to continue a relationship with a guy she barely knows who has been accused of violence and swears on his child's life. She already has a history of DV. How do you continue to date this man while still remaining cautious? What more must happen?

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:29

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 15:21

It's the point of the discussion. It is the point being made by someone who responds to an OP asking if she should continue this relationship by telling her stories of the rare women who lied, as if we don't know that happens, as if that isn't exactly what OP is struggling with.

Despite what some posters are saying, we are all aware that some women lie about abuse, though most don't. And no woman has to prove herself by dating a man when the risk/reward ratio is in the gutter. He swears on his child's life too, that's a dumpable offence even if he is the only person in the world to do that when telling the truth.

Which I had already said/discussed on an earlier post.

I was responding to someone else when you popped up quoting my post, not in relation to what I was talking about. Continuity was lacking.

Taztoy · 29/01/2026 17:29

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 17:22

And I'd add...

Even if you are a man who has been falsely accused of abuse, the decent response is not to attempt to coerce women into dating men who have been accused of violence, drawing parallels between a woman saying no and a man being falsely imprisoned. It's an absolutely fucked up message that only shows misogyny and entitlement. You being falsely accused does not oblige any other woman to enter an unsafe situation to prove anything to you at all. What the fuck.

That list of women's names that guy gave earlier. Two women a week are killed on average in England and Wales by a partner or former partner, and that's before we go into all the rapes and assaults, most of which never see a report, never mind a conviction. I wish our list were so short I could slip it into a post on Mumsnet!

This.

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 17:30

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:29

Which I had already said/discussed on an earlier post.

I was responding to someone else when you popped up quoting my post, not in relation to what I was talking about. Continuity was lacking.

Edited

I will "pop up" as I please on a public discussion, sir. And if you can't see the connection and implication between an OP asking if she should continue seeing a man accused of violence and another person responding "look at aaaaall these women who lied", then may I suggest that you should not be lecturing anyone about continuity.

Benjaminbraddock · 29/01/2026 17:31

thistimelastweek · 29/01/2026 12:41

I'm always suspicious of people who swear on the lives of their children.

Me too, theyre always wronguns in my book.
get out now @Emotionstorn , don’t worry about benefit of the doubt, there’s plenty more fish in the sea, throw this one back.

Whether it’s ‘hearsay’ or not, is your life or that of any children worth the risk?

BrownBowl · 29/01/2026 17:32

Excellent posts by @ThatCyanCat

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:32

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 17:30

I will "pop up" as I please on a public discussion, sir. And if you can't see the connection and implication between an OP asking if she should continue seeing a man accused of violence and another person responding "look at aaaaall these women who lied", then may I suggest that you should not be lecturing anyone about continuity.

Wow, you're rather aggressive.

Taztoy · 29/01/2026 17:33

Women don’t owe men a sexual relationship. No man is owed a sexual relationship from any woman.

and proceed with caution could get her raped or killed.

Taztoy · 29/01/2026 17:33

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:32

Wow, you're rather aggressive.

Unlike you, who’s just passive aggressive?

TheInkIsBlackThePageIsWhite · 29/01/2026 17:34

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:32

Wow, you're rather aggressive.

That's not aggression, that's simply a truth that you don't like so you have to try and invalidate it somehow.

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:34

Taztoy · 29/01/2026 17:33

Unlike you, who’s just passive aggressive?

No, I was to the point, asked a question then pointed out lack on continuity. You're just on full on attack.
I am not the enemy here.

Peggyplunkett · 29/01/2026 17:35

“No red flags” at all, is sometimes a big red flag in itself.
As is a stormy break-up. There is no smoke without fire.

And I don’t trust people who swear on their child lives - they are over compensating.

EnjoyingTheArmoire · 29/01/2026 17:35

Do you have kids OP?

Honestly, I think that this is a no brainer and would be ending this now before you get any further involved.

Why risk it?

StrippeyFrog · 29/01/2026 17:35

There’s a chance that he told you because he knows someone else might say something if all his friends/family have already been told so he’s just trying to get in early so if someone mentions it he can say oh I told you about my crazy ex making up stories.

Even if it’s not true do you really want to bring the potential chaos of dating a man with a child from a tumultuous relationship. He still has to co parent and it could mean further potential allegations.

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 17:35

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:32

Wow, you're rather aggressive.

So countering you on the internet is aggression, but pressuring a woman to keep seeing a potentially violent man to prove she's a good person is...

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:36

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 17:35

So countering you on the internet is aggression, but pressuring a woman to keep seeing a potentially violent man to prove she's a good person is...

Who pressured a woman? Wasn't me.

LadyLaLaLand · 29/01/2026 17:36

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:32

Wow, you're rather aggressive.

This is a textbook, misogynistic attempt at shutting a woman down. She wasn’t aggressive in the slightest.

Taztoy · 29/01/2026 17:37

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:34

No, I was to the point, asked a question then pointed out lack on continuity. You're just on full on attack.
I am not the enemy here.

Edited

The word is no mate.

Taztoy · 29/01/2026 17:37

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:36

Who pressured a woman? Wasn't me.

Edited

You did so. It’s absolutely a standard tactic to shut a woman up to call her aggressive.

hearsayshesay · 29/01/2026 17:38

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 16:59

On this thread so far, you've accused women of "finding someone guilty" for refusing to date them if they're concerned about their safety, as if female company is as much a man's right as liberty and women are obliged to reach court levels of proof before they decide they don't want to date someone, stated that a horrible story of women falsely accusing men of abuse (assuming the stories are even true) had "made your day" and now you're claiming it's "very dangerous" when a woman decides she doesn't want to date someone because there's a question mark over the safety, as if that's equivalent to imprisoning someone on no evidence. The danger to the woman isn't of any concern to you.

Women's dating choices aren't courts of law and a woman's company is not a man's human right. I'm sure you don't realise it, but all your posts very much make the case for women being exceptionally careful about who they date and not taking any chances, because there are those out there who agree with you that they have a right to a woman unless she produces a court approved dossier of evidence why she doesn't have to say yes... and many of them don't stop at merely trying to pressure them online.

Are you joking 😂It is worth reading to comprehend and not just reading to respond. Quote my words and point out where I accused any woman or poster here please of what you are claiming - I will kindly wait.

A - "you've accused women of "finding someone guilty" "
I simply pointed out that common sense says "innocent until proven guilty or make an informed decision" and not "believe someone just because of their gender, your own bias, ignorance, some sort of man/woman code, shared interest, relationship to the party etc". False accusations are a thing and yes, anyone is entitled to decide if they stay or leave, even without waiting for facts to be proven, it is very much a self choice(I bet you will my words again)

B - You stated "assuming the stories are even true🤔" You see? You seem to feel entitled to doubt my own factual story just yet claims that a woman should not be doubted anytime a claim is made (you see the double standard in your judgement and twisting of my words?; I bet you do not just because it challenges your narrative) . FYI, in my case, it was proved by law enforcement to be false and by actual evidence in the court of law. You proved my exact point in point "A"

I am a woman but I bet you will challenge that too

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:38

LadyLaLaLand · 29/01/2026 17:36

This is a textbook, misogynistic attempt at shutting a woman down. She wasn’t aggressive in the slightest.

Am I man?!!!

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 17:39

Happyjoe · 29/01/2026 17:36

Who pressured a woman? Wasn't me.

Edited

As the post trail will show, you denied that a person telling the OP about all these women who lied was suggesting that she should date this potentially violent man. Continuity, sir.

If being contradicted on the internet by a woman reads as aggressive to you, you might want to think about that for a bit.

Taztoy · 29/01/2026 17:39

hearsayshesay · 29/01/2026 17:38

Are you joking 😂It is worth reading to comprehend and not just reading to respond. Quote my words and point out where I accused any woman or poster here please of what you are claiming - I will kindly wait.

A - "you've accused women of "finding someone guilty" "
I simply pointed out that common sense says "innocent until proven guilty or make an informed decision" and not "believe someone just because of their gender, your own bias, ignorance, some sort of man/woman code, shared interest, relationship to the party etc". False accusations are a thing and yes, anyone is entitled to decide if they stay or leave, even without waiting for facts to be proven, it is very much a self choice(I bet you will my words again)

B - You stated "assuming the stories are even true🤔" You see? You seem to feel entitled to doubt my own factual story just yet claims that a woman should not be doubted anytime a claim is made (you see the double standard in your judgement and twisting of my words?; I bet you do not just because it challenges your narrative) . FYI, in my case, it was proved by law enforcement to be false and by actual evidence in the court of law. You proved my exact point in point "A"

I am a woman but I bet you will challenge that too

Edited

The law says innocent until proven guilty.

common sense does not.

beadystar · 29/01/2026 17:40

No one has red flags at first. You’ve only been seeing him 6 months. There’s already a child and a messy breakup with the mother in the picture. And he might be violent. I would walk now if I were you.

LadyLaLaLand · 29/01/2026 17:40

Next it’ll be “why are you being hysterical?”, followed by “Must be on her period”.

Interesting also, that suddenly both of them are back…..it’s like they’re on mind…..oh…..wait.

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