If anyone is observing the carnage in Minneapolis.....

[MistressoftheDarkSide]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/24/minneapolis-shooting-live

Guardian is running a live feed, and a good unbiased source is Agenda Free TV on YouTube also running live feeds from the streets there.

Obviously multiple versions of events being thrown about as it's very fresh.

Sending solidarity across the pond to any US Mumsnetters in the locale and protesting the awful actions of ICE and disregard of your constitution by the "President".

Anything else you want your imagination to include in your rubbish attempt to justify this murder?

We could be here all night...

You realise this wasn’t in the UK right? This is an open carry state in the US. People don’t get “brought down” because they’ve been spotted carrying a gun. It’s legal and people do it all the time.

Im not a fan of guns myself but to say that this murder was warranted because he had a gun in his pants is bollocks.

Oh they’ll tell you in a minute that they aren’t American, nor are they a bot. They’re just curious about “hypocrisy”. Just the type to have been reporting their neighbours for harbouring Jews during WWII.

After graduating from Green Bay Preble High School, Alex Pretti attended the University of Minnesota, where he was listed as a "junior scientist" at the medical school.

He was an ICU nurse who obtained his license in 2021, and had worked for the Department of Veterans' Affairs.

He had a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm in Minnesota.

And, even if we didn't know any of that, there would still be no excuse for what happened to him today, nor the plain and obvious lies (clearly contradicted by video evidence) coming out of the Trump administration today.

No, let's not pretend. They did indeed vote for the kidnapping and/or killing of people on the streets. They just didn't expect that some of the people being kidnapped or killed would be white American citizens. As long as the people being pushed into unmarked cars or shot were brown and/or potentially non-citizens then they were absolutely fine with that.

That is heartbreaking and infuriating.

I can’t imagine how under threat and anxious people over there must feel.

Sadly I can’t visit the U.S. anytime soon then, especially while I’m still on this medication.

I go to the U.S. once a year normally, I love it there and have close friends in various states but I just can’t risk it right now.

Im not a fan of guns myself but to say that this murder was warranted because he had a gun in his pants is bollocks.

@Alltheyellowbirds not forgetting that at the moment that he was shot, he hadn't been in possession of it for several seconds, one of the other ICE agents had taken it and stood clear. It's also worth noting that as his body is limp on the ground the agents keep firing. Something like another seven rounds.

This was murder.

Shame on you @Livelovebehappy
Take a look at the video posted on this thread from the angle of the woman in the pink jacket.

...And if that is still your America - where it's ok for 6 masked men to shoot an ICU nurse - if you think that's ok and that's their job - then you are a morally repugnant person.

The White House has posted an absolutely batshit crazy post on their social media. Honestly, this guy has the nuclear codes 🤦‍♀️

Yes @Livelovebehappy - get your facts straight and stop being so gullible and stupid.

I don't even get what people like LickLoveBootsYummy get from posting on here. Maybe they have a fetish for being viewed with widespread contempt?

Well, we all said that it appeared that Renee Good had been murdered, and we were right. And, oh look, they’ve done it again.

On the waiting for the facts… Trump’s already spewed this shit all over Facebook, so… facts optional, huh?

“12000 illegal immigrants many of them violent”

source: trust me bro

I think you’re not far off with the fetish thing for some… Plus a good old dose of brainwashing for a lot of them.

I mean, if it wasn’t so horrific, you’d have to laugh at the fact that Republicans are now saying that somebody shouldn’t have been legally carrying a gun... I can’t work out how they know how to get out of bed in the morning and clean their teeth.

There are some people who blithely thought that they were just going to deport "the worst of the worst", are horrified by what is happening, and are now acting to protect the vulnerable. I know that "there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents" but these people do also need to accept that their votes led to this.
https://apnews.com/article/minneapolis-ice-family-separation-children-8aeb8fa3ecd86f489e21c71f659cc9fd

Martinez, a devoted Christian, said she voted for President Donald Trump in the past three elections because of his hard-line stance against abortion and gender-affirming care for youth. The granddaughter of a Mexican immigrant supported deporting violent criminals and had not paid much attention to reports of family separations in the first Trump presidency.

But over the past two months, after watching videos of federal agents aggressively detaining her neighbors and working directly with children parted from their parents, she has changed her views.

It's a documented fact that certain countries (primarily Russia but they're not the only one) pay people on social media to push viewpoints that increase internal political polarisation and dissent in Western countries. There was Russian money behind Brexit and there was Russian money behind the rise of MAGA to name just two.

Thousands of the people doing this are directly and knowingly employed by the governments involved. Thousands more get money doing it but by less obvious and more deniable means. And many tens of thousands more are useful idiots who have been taken in my the first two categories and repeat the same talking points for free.

Some of them die.
Most of them are quickly moved to other states so they can't easily be found or visited

Mayor Jacob Frey giving a live press conference now.

These are literally the same people who criticise Churchill and FDR for fighting WW2 and not joining forces with Hitler instead. I don’t think comparing them to the Gestapo is going to upset them.

A lot of Latinos voted for Trump and are now looking all shocked that their family /community members are being deported. Absurd. It’s a toxic mixture of stupidity, selfishness and short sightedness. They didn’t care about other people being treated poorly as long as it wasn’t their friends or family.

Also some of it was misogyny and antiblackness - they didn’t want to vote for a mixed race/Black woman.

Honestly I despair sometimes. As much as I love how friendly and personable people are in the U.S.are it has made me look at people over there differently. Just because they appear warm and kind it doesn’t mean they’re not voting Trump.

He was not holding his gun. He was killed after they had taken his gun away. Six thugs and lynchers who have been given a uniform murdered one defenceless man.

This makes it very clear WHY they are targeting the states they are targeting and the lies they are telling to justify it. Of course, the lack of critical thinking in the supporters of the regime make is far too easy.

https://www.startribune.com/10000-undocumented-people-arrested-minnesota/601568003

This was behind a paywall but you can easily read it with https://www.removepaywall.com/

Basically, only 13% of Minnesotas estimated 495,352 immigrant population are undocumented. A very small percentage when compared to red states which, unsurprisingly, are not being targeted in this way.

It’s f-ing horrific. What has America become. Its National ‘government’ is so far removed from the America we (in the U.K.) used to see on tv 15/20 years ago. And completely at odds with the local government in states like Minnesota that are trying to calmly and legally run civil society for their citizens.

Ignore the shills

https://kottke.org/26/01/0048217-more-ways-to-help-stand

I agree. Battlefronts in blue cities play right into the Republicans’ hands. They’re already making statements on Fox News baying for it.