If anyone is observing the carnage in Minneapolis.....

[MistressoftheDarkSide]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/24/minneapolis-shooting-live

Guardian is running a live feed, and a good unbiased source is Agenda Free TV on YouTube also running live feeds from the streets there.

Obviously multiple versions of events being thrown about as it's very fresh.

Sending solidarity across the pond to any US Mumsnetters in the locale and protesting the awful actions of ICE and disregard of your constitution by the "President".

Where are they saying he had the gun? Because he was wearing such form fitting clothing that it surely would be visible in all the other footage if it was holstered under his jacket or in his waistband. I mean, they are claiming it was a semi-automatic handgun and two magazine rounds!

The guy had a gun in his wasteband, lawfully.

He was then pushed to the ground, and the gun seized.

He was then shot and killed.

People are indeed dying in ICE detention. 32 people died in ICE custody last year. Those are just the ones we know about, of course. The conditions in these centres legally amount to torture.

This really is distasteful. Advocating for state sponsored murder by blaming the victims.

How was he the aggressor??? Your posts are absolutely batshit.

So stop trying to derail it. Start your own thread

There is no proof he had a gun though. Maybe you should follow your own advice before jumping to conclusions…

No shit. I cannot BELIEVE somebody would ACTUALLY THINK OR SAY OUT LOUD ON THE INTERNET that they think those masked vigilantes are doing their jobs.

They’re just this side of the the Nazis cleaning out the Jews from Germany.

In fact, since ICE is going by skin colour, there’s very little difference.

Will somebody PLEASE WAKE US UP.

Videos show him helping the woman that had fallen down next to him and another person on the left. I feel desperately sorry for his family, friends and colleagues. He was reportedly an ICU nurse. I mean WTF

I'm perfectly entitled to make comparisons. The only difference is scale, and how far things have yet to move along.

He was the aggressor??

What do you get out of telling these evil little lies? You aren't winning hearts and minds, people just think you're sick and twisted.

If you are in the wrong place , particularly if you are the wrong color, gender or sexual identity state execution is fine and to be expected.

We have always been at war with US citizens

Jesus, if I was American and had ICE agents around, I'd carry my gun too, protection. People are allowed to carry guns in most states, including Minneapolis. You actually do not know his intent, you're guessing 100%.

But, in the video I saw, he had no gun drawn (hands were empty and one hand raised) when he was with the woman that was pushed bt ICE agents and he was pepper (?) sprayed and chucked to the ground. Then kicked, then shot. All in seconds.
Please show me where he actually threatened anyone with the gun and justified killing him? Because I couldn't see it.

Why was the guy carrying a gun? We don’t yet know his background. We don’t know if he was a threat to just ICE or people around him. Had he started firing the gun indiscriminately and shot dead bystanders, then the rhetoric would be ‘why wasn’t he brought down when his gun was spotted’.

Are you not aware of the 2nd Amendment to the US constitution? Or the gun laws of Minnesota where open carry of firearms is explicitly allowed given the possession of an appropriate permit and except under a clearly defined list of restrictions?

They are indistinguishable from Nazi brown shirts. There is no point of difference

I was reminded of Mussolini's Squadrismo.

For someone who talks a lot about the US you seem spectacularly ill-informed about US law in general and US gun regulations in particular.

My God. Seeing the news footage from Iran, and then reading this from the USA. The killings in Iran are equally horrific but not unexpected from a pariah state. Then seeing similar thug-rule violence in the USA, which is a supposed liberal democracy. It's a nightmare.

Sorry, I thought everyone has the right to bear arms? Or is that just for some people? He was a nurse, by the way. If you watch the footage, he stopped to tend to a woman who seems to have been pepper sprayed and was on the ground. And he didn’t use his weapon. He had his phone in his hand when he was jumped by a pile of ICE agents and repeatedly shot.

More fucking lies to blame the victim.

All Pretti, he has a name apparently had a licence to carry a gun. Something that is allowed there.
He had a camera in his hand and was on the floor, being held down by six men having been disarmed (videos seem to show it being removed from its holster, so he hadn't drawn it). They then decided to fire multiple shots at him.

Clearly wasnt carrying a gun to defend himself as he was the aggressor in the situation

This assumption appears to be untrue misinformation being spread to blame the victim.

Fuck off with that rubbish.

People in the US often carry guns. It's not unusual. He had a licence to carry a concealed firearm and therefore was breaking no law. At no point did he threaten the agents, or even touch the gun.

I bet that whenever there's a school shooting you'd be the first to blather that "the second amendment is there to stop a tyrannical government".

We don’t know for sure yet that he was carrying a gun. It’s certainly not clear in any of the videos, nor in the footage beforehand. It’s hard to see where he could have possibly concealed it along with two magazine rounds.

I just can't believe this is happening in the supposedly civilised world in 2026.