If anyone is observing the carnage in Minneapolis.....

[MistressoftheDarkSide]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/24/minneapolis-shooting-live

Guardian is running a live feed, and a good unbiased source is Agenda Free TV on YouTube also running live feeds from the streets there.

Obviously multiple versions of events being thrown about as it's very fresh.

Sending solidarity across the pond to any US Mumsnetters in the locale and protesting the awful actions of ICE and disregard of your constitution by the "President".

If you watch Iampoliticsgirl Instagram story from today, there is a horrifying slowed down video that shows the ICE agent that shot Alex, watching as the other agent removes his firearm, before he goes on to shoot him in the back and head multiple times.

Are you blind? I really wonder whether it was worth bothering educating anybody about the road to fascism, WWII and the Nazi's at all, if people are going to look at something square in the face and decide it can't possible be what it so obviously is. Are you waiting for them to ring some kind of fascism bell? To let you know this is it? It's here. It's happening now. Wake up.

What is this little boy guilty of? Is he a violent criminal?

"I really wonder whether it was worth bothering educating anybody about the road to fascism, WWII and the Nazi's at all, if people are going to look at something square in the face and decide it can't possible be what it so obviously is."

You really need to calm down with the hysteria, and get a grip.

Walkden is clearly not old enough to remember when Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election.

You really need to open your eyes and stop being - at best - a useful idiot.

At this stage of the proceedings, I believe expressing denial is more along the lines of showing approval.

@Walkden

Can you please explain to me why Noem is demanding voting registration information as a precondition to withdrawing ICE?

Obvious answer: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5705357-murphy-accuses-trump-immigration-midterms/

What's yours?

Walkden is clearly not old enough to remember when Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election.

Yet the result stood and re elected a few years later. America has always been a democracy and I have every confidence it will stay that way for the foreseeable future. Some of us are just not prone to histrionics...

Oh, those good old days where he was just trying to overturn elections rather than prevent them occurring.

I did say 'some'. What little boy, the one whoe dad ran off and abandoned him and is allegedly in the US illegally?

Oh we see you Gloriia.

The results stood because there were enough old-school conservatives in the last administration, like Mike Pence, who were unwilling to go along with the plot. This time, Trump has filled every relevant position with sycophants.

Again - why is the administration demanding voter registration information as a precondition to withdrawing ICE?

Oh G, haha there you go again. Here are the facts. There’s loads of articles out there, so if you don’t like the Guardian, many more are available 😊

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/21/ice-arrests-five-year-old-boy-minnesota

I mean, what a really valuable contribution. Well done you.

Stop being an apologist for fascists and murderers.

No, he was with his father who was arrested. Instead of handing the boy over to his mother who was there ICE took him away with his father to a detention facility in Texas. It isn't known if they have been kept together. The father wasn't 'illegal' he was going through the process of claiming asylum through the proper channels.

She knows.

Meanwhile, after his agents killed an innocent man yesterday, Trump calls them heroes today.

"Stop being an apologist for fascists and murderers"

See, I just don't see trump or Vance as fascists or murderers. Trump is fickle, unhinged and rambling and possibly naive when it comes to dealing with Putin for example but much as I might dislike him or his policies he is not a fascist. He seems to be doing exactly what he said he would when elected.

@Gloriia , perhaps you'll answer where others won't.

If ICE are in Minneapolis for the purpose of immigration control, why is the administration demanding "access Minnesota's voter rolls ahead of upcoming elections" as a precondition to any withdrawal of ICE from the city?

Oh good, you're still here.

Why is the administration demanding access to voter rolls, ahead of the midterms, as a precondition for any withdrawal of ICE?

If ICE are present for the purpose of immigration control, that wouldn't seem to make any sense.

If ICE have been deployed for the purpose of election interference, it makes rather more sense, wouldn't you say?

"Can you please explain to me why Noem is demanding voting registration information as a precondition to withdrawing ICE?"

Well no, because only Noem would know that...

It is not "hysteria" to see that this is fascism.
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/01/america-fascism-trump-maga-ice/685751/?gift=JPpBcG1V91hbaN04g4Khsp4lCpkXDze27813gXWFaiU

Oh, that’s good, that you’ve confirmed it. If only Noem knows, then it would be really beyond inappropriate for a state to release all of that confidential information as a bargain to prevent their innocent citizens from being killed. Good answer, thank you.