If anyone is observing the carnage in Minneapolis.....

[MistressoftheDarkSide]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/24/minneapolis-shooting-live

Guardian is running a live feed, and a good unbiased source is Agenda Free TV on YouTube also running live feeds from the streets there.

Obviously multiple versions of events being thrown about as it's very fresh.

Sending solidarity across the pond to any US Mumsnetters in the locale and protesting the awful actions of ICE and disregard of your constitution by the "President".

Idk illegal Irish and Russians are also getting deported.

Is the Holocaust purely Jewish? If it is, my apologies.

If not where do you think it started, with the old, the infirm, the disabled, the gypsies and all other minority groups.

ICE don't even seem to be making those distinctions.

Remember, it didn’t start with gas chambers.

It started with politicians dividing the people with ‘us vs. them.’

It started with intolerance and hate speech, and when people stopped caring, became desensitized, and turned a blind eye, it became a slippery slope

… it’s “nothing like the Holocaust” ???

Somalians have scammed literally billions, even the NYT covered it.

It really was/is that bad

www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.html

Times have changed indeed

Just 6 years ago these guys were saying they couldn't breathe while wearing a mask. Now they can't execute American citizens and beat up migrants without one 🤷‍♀️

Protestors should not be allowed within a certain distance of ICE, because it’s clearly not safe.

Or maybe ICE should be the ones who have to stay away as they're the ones who are clearly the threat.

It’s actually just illegals. And they’ve no right to be in America.

Yes, they are being targeted because they REFUSE TO LEAVE.

You are a piece of work.

We should not leave them "alone to do their job" when they are doing it using illegal means.

Why not answer what i actually said? you can't. Because you know that following the rule of law is what is required here.
Not state sanctioned terrorism.

Your assertion that Renee Good put an agent in danger is utter bullshit, as you know from the various accounts of the incident. Including the ME who have now issued their report.

We both agree that immigration and illegal activity needs to be brought under control. But do we agree that an unaccountable, anonomyous miliitia should be rampaging around ignoring the law? I don't. You apparently think this is ok.

I go on a lot of protests. I know the score. But when they come for you? i will stand aside and let them have you. (theoretically)

I didn’t count how many men were trying to bring this man down to the ground but I think a few British bobbies would have managed it easily without resorting to lethal force. Also with Renee Good they had her number plate so if they’d wanted to charge her with a crime they could have just gone to her house and arrested her later. So the objective seems to be different.

Farage won't get anywhere near winning. Too many reasonable people who will tactically vote to keep them out.

Facism has never taken hold in the UK and I think that the UK would have to do a complete turnaround for it to do so now.

Reform is already waning, and Farages meals mouthed lack of condemnation for Trumps insulting our troops, our war dead and our injured can fuck off. He can also take his party of washed up tories that were part of the tory government robbing the country blind with him.

ICE are there to enforce federal immigration law. It doesn’t matter if Minnesotans (actually, just people in St Paul/Minneapolis) don’t want it enforced, it’s not up to them.

And if they want to protest, they can do so at federal buildings, organize marches and demonstrations with permits.

But they need to leave ICE agents alone. It’s not safe for them to protest during enforcement procedures

Hi Stephen Miller 👋👋

oh my god you are like a broken record.

Yes immigration needs to be controlled
Yes it falls under the purview of ICE

they should be doing it in line with the law which requires them to be identifiable and not use lethal force willy nilly.

Just like Melanoma Trump. And the orange 🍊 mother was

"Times have changed indeed
Just 6 years ago these guys were saying they couldn't breathe while wearing a mask. Now they can't execute American citizens and beat up migrants without one 🤷‍♀️"

Don't know what you are on about

John McCain died in 2018 and Obama was pictured in mask many times. To my knowledge neither "beat up migrants".

Ironic that I made a point that politicians used to respect each other and you responded by defaming a dead man for cheap point scoring

So, give Trump the benefit of the doubt in case he doesn't lie is a pretty weird way to approach someone who demonstrably and provably lies every time he opens his mouth.

Majority: noun. More than half (50%) of a total number or amount.

(77,000,000 ÷ 174,00,000) × 100% = 44.25%.

Oh...

This 💯

Freedom of Assembly is protected under the US Constitution.

They are following the rule of law. We voted for mass deportations, our Congress voted for fund them.

ICE is of course allowed to detain illegal immigrants. How else are you going to deport them?

We have financial incentives to get them to leave, but if they won’t? What then?

I say go after employers and landlords, aggressively deny access to public funds. It’s an effective tool that has not been used as much as it should have.

Farage won't get anywhere near winning. Too many reasonable people who will tactically vote to keep them out.

famous last words.

In Germany we are trying to get the (far right) Afd party banned. The government is being all pathetic and saying "no"

But this is the same fucking country where the Nazis weren't banned in the name of democracy.

So i wouldn't be complacent if i were in any other country. I would be doing all i could to preserve democracy and the rule of law.

As for people like @RingoJuice i hope someone comes for them one day, that they feel the terror. Because there is no way to get it through to some people unless they experience it themselves.

Do you LIKE 'that this guy got killed?

Fucking hell. How deep in a pit of inhumanity do you have to be to divide the murder of people - someone's mum - someone's child - into those you 'like' or you 'don't like?'

I hope you don't pretend to be a churchgoer. Thou Shalt Not Kill stands alone, not just when you like someone's lifestyle or they are too terrified to challenge you.

Do you have a link to support this assertion? Or will you recommend that I “do my own research”?

I so hope you are right! I used to think the same, that this country was better than that, but that was until I saw how much support reform were getting and the mental gymnastics some people will do to justify their continued support of him no matter what.

People also have very short memories, they seem to have forgotten very quickly how bad the Tories were for 14 years already, and who gave us Brexit, so it’s a bit of a worry that they won’t lose enough support, but here’s hoping with every fibre of my being 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

You aren’t allowed to obstruct federal agents however.

They can assemble somewhere else, perhaps a federal building.

We went through this with pro-lifers, and we jailed some. You can understand why! Their objections do not outweigh the public interest