If anyone is observing the carnage in Minneapolis.....

[MistressoftheDarkSide]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/24/minneapolis-shooting-live

Guardian is running a live feed, and a good unbiased source is Agenda Free TV on YouTube also running live feeds from the streets there.

Obviously multiple versions of events being thrown about as it's very fresh.

Sending solidarity across the pond to any US Mumsnetters in the locale and protesting the awful actions of ICE and disregard of your constitution by the "President".

I suggest you read up on.. the Fraud investigation dates back to 2020, and around 50 people have already been convicted. The person who masterminded the whole thing was a white, American woman who is currently in Prison

The claims were rehashed (with no new evidence) by a right-wing, anti-immigration you-tuber, which gave Trump the excuse he needed to go into Minnesota.. mainly because it’s a Democrats state, and he doesn’t like Tim Waltz - I do still believe though, that this is about distracting people from the Epstein Files, and distracting people from the Trillions of dollars that Trump cronies are taking out of the county - including those making money from ICE activities, such as the private prison providers. Private transport providers etc .

So the Fraud has been, and continues to be investigated. It was a convenient hook for Trump to hang his “anti-immigration” crack down on

Hear fucking hear.

I don’t think 77m counts as the ‘vast majority’, isn’t it about half? And even then Trump himself alluded to the election being rigged with Elon’s help, although he’s so intellectually challenged that I can’t be sure whether he realised he’d just said the quiet part out loud.

Even if that’s not true, it doesn’t say a lot for Americans if the election was completely legitimate, and just makes me lose faith in humanity even more really!

‘Smart people don’t like me’ (Trump, 2025)

I’ve said this on other threads and not a single person reacted to it.
People have very short memories

Why?

Because it's a majority Democrat state. There are far more migrants in Texas and Florida but they are Republican states where the majority support Trump and his government.

Pam Bondi has said that if Minnesota hands over its vote database to Trump, she will remove ICE from their state. Trump and his administration want to subvert and steal the next elections and this is one of the ways that they are doing it.

And 90m didn't vote at all (hope some of them feel guilty now)

Thanks for the clarification. Whilst I totally agree with immigration control, its obviously not working out in that area and they need to leave. Its clear to see in that video that the man was murdered where there was absolutly no need. As time.goes on, thungs will become more hostile and escalate which is a frightening thought.

meh.
if they are responsible agents of the law - they should not be covering their IDs, they should be identifiable (as they are required by law)
They shouldn't be shooting people who are already restrained
they shouldn't be kidnapping anyone's children just to draw them out

I used to be in the military, and i am pretty relaxed about some things. But this? this is state organised terrorism. And it needs to be countered.

So. again: men (and the handwavey "oh the left" - does that make you the right? do you think that with your attitude that ICE are doing a good job properly that you are on the right side of history? hmmm)

Do not accuse me of stirring up hate. Absolute nerve of you.

No one knows what’s going on in those gulags , but you did notice the one undocumented truth. Which was actually a mistype.

So you know truth from fiction then. Despite what you’ve apparently read

People are being murdered on the street and you are trying to defend it.

That’s who you are

ICE needs to be left alone to do their job.

Unlike with Renee Good (who did put an ICE agent at risk) it seems that there was no reason to shoot. I don’t celebrate this, but we need to ensure public safety. I think the National Guard should be called in, because of course ICE cannot do their job under these conditions (though I believe it was Border Patrol in this case)

If your response to this is ‘Stop Ice’ I can’t take you seriously. If your idea is ‘how can ICE do better?’ then I’m all ears.

A good place to start is by hitting employers and landlords.

Surely it is summary execution not murder.

It doesn’t matter what people may have been thinking. It’s what actually happened and whether that was illegal that matters. And that should be judged in a court of law. Unfortunately the Trump Administration is not allowing this to be judged in by the Courts.

I find it so ironic that last year was the 80th anniversary of the Holocaust. Talk about history repeating itself.

Population of America = 340,000,000

Number of registered voters in 2024 = 174,000,000

Number of people who voted for convicted felon and known sex offender Donald Trump = 77,000,000

Think you need to learn what "vast" and "majority" means.

Rubbish.
Wilful ignorance as a tool to justify cold blooded murder by a fascist regime is not a good look 🙄
Minnesota has quite a low immigrant population compared to many red states. Of those, the percentage of undocumented immigrants is lower still.
It is no secret how Mango Mussolini feels about Tim Walz and blue states in general. It's also no secret how petty and vengeful MM is.
The Somali population are the new "they're eating the cats and dogs.." Haitian one. 🤷‍♀️
Hook. Line. Sinker

For anyone interested, this is an excellent analysis of multi angle videos of the murder
www.instagram.com/p/DT6NWtzD7dW/.

You said children were being shot. How is that a mistype? Adding awful stories onto what is actually happening will spread untruths and stir up hate. Things are bad enough as they already without made up stories

It’s nothing like the Holocaust and you know it.

I suspect ones perspective might depend on the colour of your skin.

Renee Good was driving away from the incident, she didn't put him at risk. Even if he perceived that he was at risk what is the justification for shooting her through the side of the head? (I.e when she was already past him)

What is a safe direction in a public space with loads of onlookers milling about and icy surfaces to ricochet off? Just put on the safety catch ffs

Whatever. It still fact that the majority voted Trump in and thats that.

So Hillary should have been president in 2016 after winning the popular vite. Right?

I voted for Trump. I voted for mass deportations.

Do I like that this guy got killed? No, he seems like he didn’t really do anything (unlike Renee).

But I fully expect deportations to continue. I hope that the National Guard will be called to ensure public safety. No reason for that shooting to have happened.

Protestors should not be allowed within a certain distance of ICE, because it’s clearly not safe.

meh. I'm in Germany and we have been going to protests for some time. It is very clear here also that there is a division on thinking - politicians are supposed to calm things down, not calm them up.

The rule of law must apply. Because otherwise, that totally batshit description that Trump gave of Somalia (was it Somalia?) could easily apply to what his administration are doing in Minnesota.

Agreed Somalia has issues, and agreed that there is an immigration issue in the west. But this is NOT the way to handle it. Due process and the rule of law is how to handle it. Trump, like it or not, is president. If he wants to handle immigration differently to how it has been done recently, he needs to use the laws they already have, or with due process create more. Not just make things up as he goes along and recruit neo-nazis to be his own private militia.

Also agree it is not helpful to repeat untruths such as children being shot. The baby with the teargas is a true story, the mother had to give it cpr.