To wonder if past trauma was a factor in the Renee Nicole Good murder and that, while not absolving agent, it shows ICE should select agents more carefully?

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Reading this from the BBC, I wonder if the agent was suffering from previous trauma. They had earlier been in the Iraq War and then had huge number of stitches after being dragged by a car while arresting apparently a 'child sex offender' illicit migrant last March.

Thus I wonder if, because Renee Good clipped them with the car earlier(as The Times indicates), shooting at her car as she drove past was less a rational decision borne from evil and more an instinctive reaction from recent trauma with cars on the job?

This is NOT an excuse. But I wonder if it also shows that ICE are selecting traumatised agents who are too dangerous, due to this, to be in that position?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx4qd4d16no

That should read, 'xenophobia' not that☝️

I do think your election system is mad i know ours isnt great but when its so disproportionate to voters its way out of wack and all about money thats so wrong the poor dont stand any chance....but then society over there only seems to care about money.

Because Obama detained and deported at the border. They never left those ICE facilities as their asylum cases were being heard (and largely dismissed because few had any basis for asylum)

Biden instituted catch and release, which put millions of asylum seekers in communities around America. They are much harder to apprehend and deport, as you should well know.

They deported within the law with correct paperwork and not using a body of ICE that was created by Trump

You really don’t understand much about ICE, which was established under Clinton (yes that long ago).

I'm not in the US I can't tell you why people voted for him, I'm guessing after hopeless Biden and Harris making tits of themselves everytime they opened their mouths they wanted someone who spoke in sentences and was no nonsense. Illegal immigration has apparently massively reduced so he is doing something right.

You can't help wondering why the dems can't get a decent candidate running their show.

Yes, long rambling, tedious sentences. Maybe he's banking on his voters not having the concentration span.

Ever thought you might be talking to somebody who’s Jewish? We’ve seen all this before. And we’ve seen people like you, before too.

See this is an explanation rather than just Trump is perfect ....so can it be returned to how Obama had it?
Why does it need to be done with violence and guns? We dont use tear gas and guns.

Spoke in sentences have you seen his ramblings about his childhood in the middle of a briefing?
So you are judging just by social media that shows you only the clips your algorithm thinks you will be interested in....far right it seems....do you read independently or is it just face book?

We all know Jewish people.

The fact that the nazis escalated from rounding up legal citizens to murdering them in their millions is not comparable to ICE removing those illegally in the US. It is appalling to keep making this comparison.

Speaking in sentences as opposed to Biden and Harris.

As I say the fault lies with the dems for their hopeless candidates.

It can’t be returned to how Obama did it, because there was nobody like Biden, who allowed 4-6 million illegal aliens to settle all
over America while waiting for their ‘asylum’ cases to be heard.

Youve missed the point spectacularly. The Nazis didn't consider Jewish people as German.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-nuremberg-race-laws

Removing aliens, disappearing them off the street, terrorising the German population is exactly comparable.

People have disappeared and have been killed whilst in detention with ice.

You are denying the lessons of history.

For the trillionth time ICE are removing people in the US illegally. If they ever start removing those in the US legally you can write speeches about the nazis until the cows come home.
However as it has no relevance it just comes across as hysteria and attempts to whip up hate again law enforcement officers.

Ice are removing people they've deemed illegal, those 1 signature away from a green card, following the rules to be in the country by going to court appointments etc.

You really are blinkered about the bully boy and his private army.

I think you know quite a narrow sphere of men then. Would you put John Prescott in the “cycling, bookish” camp? Or Mick Lynch?

(That type of man has obviously fallen out of favour with the Parliamentary Labour Party so not on the news so often, hence the examples, but they definitely still exist - most of the men in my family are working class socialists).

"ICE are removing people in the US illegally", oops! Freudian slip there.

ICE are removing people who are in the US illegally. I know you're desperate but even so. No 'nazis!!!!!!!' comments this time?

'Would you put John Prescott in the “cycling, bookish” camp? Or Mick Lynch?'

Not aimed at me but I'd put Prescott in the cheating sleazeball camp and Mick who?

You’re right, I don’t think we need to use the term Nazi anymore.

We’ve been using Nazi as a way to describe what ICE is doing, and becoming, to explain how it looks in the context of the past and to warn of where it would lead.

But we don’t need this now, because they’ve reached a depth of depravity that the term Nazi helped us to describe. They’re not hiding who they are or what they’re doing. People can’t deny where it will lead because it is already here, in the full view of the world.

Anybody denying it at this stage is just admitting they are OK with it. Women being murdered, children being snatched off the streets, citizens being detained, and immigrants being treated illegally and inhumanely, including death.

We don’t need to say Nazi anymore, because we can just say ICE.

Would it surprise you to learn that the NYP is supposedly Donald Trump's favourite paper?

Minnesota is a long way from the Mexican border, and there are consequently very few undocumented migrants.

So why have ICE chucked 10% of their entire manpower on this one state?

Someone who spoke in sentences? Have you ever listened to one of Trump's speeches in full?

Honestly, it’s hilarious isn’t it. I suppose Trump does speak in full sentences, if you count a one hour and forty minute madcap, bilge-spewing ramble as a single sentence 😆

ICE have been abducting citizens, green card holders, and those with valid visas. They don't care, they've got arrest quotas to fill.