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Ice agent shoots a woman in the face part 3

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Moontan · 09/01/2026 15:35

Donald Trump has now said its okay to murder a woman. Because they are doing it for people's 'safety'

It is interesting how far humans will let themselves be abused by bad people.

I was watching a documentary about jonestown the cult.

Some people left the cult

They said that the leader beat people, raped people, starved people. He made them do physical labour for many hours a day. He demanded that they give him all of their money.

And yet still hundreds of people followed him.

People seem to keep supporting a person and staying there. Rather than saying "maybe i was wrong and this guy is actually a bad person"

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thedramaQueen · 10/01/2026 20:35

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:35

Do your own research

Said like a person who can't back up their nonsense well done!!

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 20:36

Ihavelostthegame · 10/01/2026 20:31

I think what they mean is he was not in the path of the vehicle. She was doing a hard right turn. As he well knew. He was clear of the predictable path of the car. Which is proved by the fact the car did not run him over after she was shot. If you shoot and kill someone driving directly at you, you will likely still be hit by the vehicle as it will continue along its path until something stops it. The car didn’t it went right and crashed into the cars parked down the street. The wheels therefore must have been turned before she was shot.

I agree that the wheels must have been turned right for the vehicle to travel in the direction it took.

The question though is that the officer was in the close proximity to the vehicle when he shot and had no way of knowing which way the wheels were turned.

Ihavelostthegame · 10/01/2026 20:37

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 20:31

Again that is misinformation- yes a man approached the ICE officers and self identified himself as a physician- at no point did he display his medical ID / credentials as you can see from this video:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BC4K5XQnB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

It’s not misinformation there is a video in which he shows his ID. It’s also backed up by various witnesses.

Ihavelostthegame · 10/01/2026 20:40

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 20:36

I agree that the wheels must have been turned right for the vehicle to travel in the direction it took.

The question though is that the officer was in the close proximity to the vehicle when he shot and had no way of knowing which way the wheels were turned.

He could see what she was trying to do for a good 30 seconds before she was shot. Enough time for him to walk from the ICE vehicle (which was behind to the right side of the car) round the front of her car and round to the drivers side. Any idiot could see what she was doing. She reversed back to the left then turned right to make the right hand turn. It was very very clear she was doing a 3 point turn in the road.

NoSoNo · 10/01/2026 20:40

PerkingFaintly · 10/01/2026 20:20

This is worth repeating (paraphrased from upthread), as we're now watching it being enacted in real time:

They [don't say these things] it to make the shooter look innocent, but to make the victim look guilty. Not guilty of a crime. Guilty of having a visibly queer wife. Guilty of liberalism. Guilty of opposing the regime. They don’t seek to exonerate themselves, only to demonstrate who deserves to die.

Indeed. It's fascist. And that's what all this is about.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 10/01/2026 20:40

thedramaQueen · 10/01/2026 20:35

Said like a person who can't back up their nonsense well done!!

Agreed

someone did do their own research, the abuse claim turned out to be misinformation

now its the turn of the accusing poster to produce evidence…which they don’t have

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:41

Of course the word “ queer “ turns up on this thread…

StrictlyDumbChancing · 10/01/2026 20:42

Even if Renee Good turns out to be a POS she still didn't deserve to be murdered in cold blood.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/01/2026 20:42

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:35

Do your own research

Just a little linky would be appreciated.

If you are causing someone of putting out cigarettes on children, it’s a very good idea to have proof. Because it is serious.

It is also totally unrelated to this incident, and there has been a push to make Renee the right kind of victim. So you can appreciate that scepticism is justified.

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:43

Look for your own information, I’m not doing it for you

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/01/2026 20:45

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:43

Look for your own information, I’m not doing it for you

Why are you so hostile? If she chose a partner who burns children, I will condemn her with you.

I still won’t agree she deserved to die.

And please clarify your issue with the word ‘queer’. Is it her being a lesbian you object to, or the use of the word?

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 10/01/2026 20:48

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:43

Look for your own information, I’m not doing it for you

Some one posted a link that said the claims of child abuse are unfounded

its your turn to ‘prove’ it….a previous poster has produced evidence, why are you unable to?

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 10/01/2026 20:49

StrictlyDumbChancing

I completely agree

NoSoNo · 10/01/2026 20:50

StrictlyDumbChancing · 10/01/2026 20:42

Even if Renee Good turns out to be a POS she still didn't deserve to be murdered in cold blood.

💯

Concludes the thread.

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:50

I think you will find that nowadays most lesbians object to be referred to as “ queer “ . They are gay , lesbian, homosexual women, same sex attracted , not “ queer “. And no I don’t have an issue with her and her partner being gay.

MsJinks · 10/01/2026 21:02

Nearly 2,850 posts on this and still plenty of posts, on Mumsnet, saying a woman, a mother, brought her killing on herself, if not deserved it.

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 21:03

Ihavelostthegame · 10/01/2026 20:37

It’s not misinformation there is a video in which he shows his ID. It’s also backed up by various witnesses.

OK - I'm happy to admit I'm wrong. I simply provided a video where the man simply claimed to be a physician and didn't offer any proof of this.

If you can provide a video link showing that he did provide proof that he was a physician then I will happily admit that I am wrong.

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 21:05

MsJinks · 10/01/2026 21:02

Nearly 2,850 posts on this and still plenty of posts, on Mumsnet, saying a woman, a mother, brought her killing on herself, if not deserved it.

2,850 posts and I haven't seen a single one that says "she deserved it".

MsAmerica · 10/01/2026 21:05

I can't tell you how much it irritates me to see posts like this in AIBU, instead of where they would be more appropriate - like the Politics forum.

Do you really think people might say you're unreasonable about this? You don't even bother to pretend to frame it as an AIBU question.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 10/01/2026 21:06

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 21:05

2,850 posts and I haven't seen a single one that says "she deserved it".

Maybe reread that post *mrsjinks’ didn’t say anyone had said that

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 21:15

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 10/01/2026 21:06

Maybe reread that post *mrsjinks’ didn’t say anyone had said that

OK I re read the post - "plenty of people saying she brought it on herself, if not deserved it ".

So as you asked I reread that as there are numerous people stating that "she brought it on herself " - personally I not seen anyone stating this. But plenty of people saying that it was the wrong decision to drive off instead of getting out of the vehicle as instructed.

"if not deserved it " - so I read this as in addition to those in the above category then there are a minority stating "she deserved it". Again I haven't seen any posters state this.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 10/01/2026 21:23

Yes

so ‘she brought it on herself’…

the ‘if not’ bit means that no one has said ‘she deserves it’…just that ‘she bought it on herself’

Ladywinesalot · 10/01/2026 21:23

Video clearly shows she drove into him whilst he was investigating the car

Ladywinesalot · 10/01/2026 21:25

You can hear the wife shout “drive baby drive”, whilst Renee reves the engine

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