Ice agent shoots a woman in the face part 3

[Moontan]

Donald Trump has now said its okay to murder a woman. Because they are doing it for people's 'safety'

It is interesting how far humans will let themselves be abused by bad people.

I was watching a documentary about jonestown the cult.

Some people left the cult

They said that the leader beat people, raped people, starved people. He made them do physical labour for many hours a day. He demanded that they give him all of their money.

And yet still hundreds of people followed him.

People seem to keep supporting a person and staying there. Rather than saying "maybe i was wrong and this guy is actually a bad person"

And equally the picture is incredibly muddied by posters put out deliberate misinformation such as
"there wasn't anyone stood in front of the vehicle " - there was.

"she was simply pulling out of her driveway" - she wasn't.

"that ICE officers treated her body like a bag of meat" - when in reality it was the Fire Department and EMS that took her body out of the vehicle.

"denial of medical treatment " - you see this creates the impression that the ICE officers stopped all medical assistance - yes there was denied access to the victim to a man claiming to be a physician and instead the officers called 911 and the EMS and Fire Department arrived 6 minutes later.

When this deliberate misinformation is pointed out then it's usually followed by emotive kick back like:
"so you're happy she died" or "so you support Trump over Greenland" or "Putin over Ukraine " etc.

The left focus their argument on emotion and the right focuses its argument on facts. Based on this sadly the two will
never agree.

Was it something Trump said? Cos he’s a lying fucker

Know what's even worse? He's probably just repeating something he was told by Miller or Rubio. They want people to become outraged so they're purposefully spreading lies knowing idiots will repeat them. They want an escalation.

I bet you'll be waiting a long time for that and when it comes it will unproven nonsense...

As my namesake say, lies travel around the world before truth gets its shoes on.

But I thought you said that "there wasn't anyone stood in front of the vehicle" - if that's the case then how could this non existent person step out of the way?

She was denied medical treatment at the scene. A doctor present was denied access to her despite showing his medical ID. ICE made no attempt to start CPR or any life saving measures. Maybe they didn’t know how - but then there is a strong argument for them not having guns or being on the streets without proper first aid training.
6 minutes is too long for any life saving measures to start.

There’s a strong possibility she may not have seen him where he was. When she began reversing he was at the car door of one of the ICE vehicles. He could clearly see what she was trying to do in turning the car yet he still chose to walk around the front of the vehicle putting himself in the potential line of the car. If you were fearing your life from being run over why the hell would you walk round the front of the car putting yourself in harms way?

I tell you what screams justified killing is DHS speeding you across state lines and your mates then entering your house to remove loads of possibly important evidence.

This is worth repeating (paraphrased from upthread), as we're now watching it being enacted in real time:

They [don't say these things] it to make the shooter look innocent, but to make the victim look guilty. Not guilty of a crime. Guilty of having a visibly queer wife. Guilty of liberalism. Guilty of opposing the regime. They don’t seek to exonerate themselves, only to demonstrate who deserves to die.

The right base their argument on facts?

The same right whose president, mere hours after the incident and without waiting for any investigation, made up claims like the officer was 'viciously run over', it was 'hard to believe he was alive' and that he was now 'recovering in hospital'?

All related to the officer who continued to fire shots well after the vehicle had cleared him, who hovered around the scene for some time pacing up and down and then who got in his car and drove himself away?

Sure, the right absolutely love using facts!

I agree that the driver may not have seen the officer in front of the vehicle, especially since she would have been distracted by the officer at her window trying to open the door.

But to deny that there was ever an officer stood in front of the vehicle is deliberate misinformation and easily proven wrong from the videos.

The same right insisting she accelerating at the agent, the same right saying she fafo (hate that pathetic frat boy phrase), the same right saying she was blocking the road (even though the videos show the truth).

The same right now gleefully claiming her children were abused without evidence.

I dont understand your post?

I feel like "in front of the vehicle" does a lot of heavy lifting. He wasn't in the way of the direction of travel is better.

If they truly believed is was a "good" shooting then why would they flee the scene then remove items from the agents home before state cops could access it?

Let’s see shall we …

I think what they mean is he was not in the path of the vehicle. She was doing a hard right turn. As he well knew. He was clear of the predictable path of the car. Which is proved by the fact the car did not run him over after she was shot. If you shoot and kill someone driving directly at you, you will likely still be hit by the vehicle as it will continue along its path until something stops it. The car didn’t it went right and crashed into the cars parked down the street. The wheels therefore must have been turned before she was shot.

The left focus their argument on emotion and the right focuses its argument on facts

complete and utter bollocks…and thats an actual fact

Again that is misinformation- yes a man approached the ICE officers and self identified himself as a physician- at no point did he display his medical ID / credentials as you can see from this video:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BC4K5XQnB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

No the misinformation quote was " there wasn't anyone stood in front of the vehicle ".

Seems pretty clear to me.

@Alexandra2001

Oh I see. Yes I agree. They have in no way acted like the innocent party. The fact that within minutes it was announced as fact that she was a domestic terrorist and a political agitator proves that too. At the very least an investigation should have been called. Vance has already announced that the shooter will have immunity. I really doubt she will get any form of justice anytime soon.

Plenty of peer-reviewed studies back you up

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1080362

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2502053122

Ironically...

@RhannionKPSS Where's the credible link? Ah I see you don't have one - surprise surprise.

Do your own research