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Ex-mother in law begging and crying for DD's photos

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Nia34 · 15/12/2025 11:20

My ex mother-in-law, whom I got on okay with, has recently reached out to me on WhatsApp, literally begging me to send her pictures of DD (7 years old). I have not spoken to her in over two years.

Her son and I officially separated in early 2022. He cheated and moved overseas (Europe) to be with the AP. He was and is living with his mum. He tried to make us homeless and left his job to avoid paying child maintenance (he worked for a UK company). He has made sure to remain jobless and is now only considering jobs in the UAE as it is a non-REMO country. He made the divorce process absolute hell. Went to court over finances, lied about everything.

Since the end of 2021, he has been largely absent from DD’s life because he lives abroad. However, whenever he reached out, I allowed contact. Whenever he visited (no more than twice a year for a few days and not specifically to see DD), I let him spend as much time with her as he wished.

We tried to set up a call schedule, but he refused. He bought her a phone so he could contact her, as according to him, I was in the way, yet he rarely did call/message. DD had to call him every time, and he wouldn’t answer. Messages would go unanswered for days, and he never tried to communicate unless DD initiated the conversation.

I eventually had to stop all phone contact with him because DD was extremely upset after his last visit. He stayed for 3 months, primarily due to court hearings, and then left again without even saying bye to her. I have sent a letter (in May this year) offering consistent contact since, but he has not responded.

DD and I went through a very difficult time over the years. She was very young, and it was extremely hard for her to understand why her dad did not make her a priority. It was incredibly painful for both of us.
Now, she wants absolutely nothing to do with him and has set a clear boundary both at home and at school: no one is allowed to bring up her dad in conversation, as she says it makes her feel angry and upset. She refuses to call him “Daddy” and instead refers to him as “that man.”

Anyway, his mum was very upset about the divorce and did not want it to happen. On the voice note, she said she misses us and that it is not her fault her son behaves the way he does. She went on to literally beg for pictures of DD. I sent her a couple of pictures, and DD sent a voice note saying hello, how are you etc. She replied crying, saying I had made her day.

I feel conflicted because him and his family have not bothered to ask how DD is for months and months, literally to the point where they would not have known whether she was alive or dead. And I feel a bit annoyed that he gets to see her and receive updates (through his mum) without even trying.

AIBU to send photos? Should I continue to send photos if she asks, or should I stop if it happens again in the future?

OP posts:
HoppityBun · 15/12/2025 11:26

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t send photos, with your DD’s permission. She has an extended family and a paternal grandmother who loves her and has done nothing wrong

reabies · 15/12/2025 11:26

You're a bigger person than me OP, I don't even send photos to my MIL and I am happily married to her son. I think I would say something like 'happy to share photos this time as you've not seen her recently, but really it would be better if you get your updates on daughter's life from [son's name]. Thanks.'

And then...the ball is in their court for how much he bothers to find out about what your daughter is doing. And if he doesn't pass anything onto his mum then that's on him.

FuzzyWolf · 15/12/2025 11:29

She was and is her grandmother. Your issue is with your ex and your entire justification to not send her photos is about how somebody else has treated you.

You’ll probably find your DD will be glad to have a relationship with her grandmother and resent you when she inevitably finds out you prevented it.

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 15/12/2025 11:30

I would normally be in the fuck that stance but your DD seemed keen ?

It might be healing for her to have a grandma interested in her ? Does it really matter if her dad gets to see the photos with no effort? Fuck him.

I think if she enjoys the attention from grandma then she should have a relationship with her.

I come from the position of having a Ds who's dad left when he was a baby

jocktamsonsbairn · 15/12/2025 11:30

I have been in a similar situation and I did photos , Christmas cards etc to his mum. I did it for my DC as they are her grandchildren and she didn’t do anything wrong, didn’t try to help or anything either right enough but I have always just done it so the relationship was still salvageable in the future if my dc wanted it as adults. They are in their 20s now and are still in sporadic touch with their gran, glad to have the level of relationship they have although haven’t see her for years. Basically they speak on Christmas and birthdays but I felt it wasn’t up to me to stop it. Communication has always been open and now it’s up to them to continue it. They don’t want anything to do with their dad though even after he decided to get back in touch with them as adults. Too late, there’s no relationship there and they just don’t want to know him. Their choice completely and I am glad I kept the communication open with ex mil as it gave dc the choice. XH didn’t give the chance to keep communication open as he wasn’t interested, didn’t pay maintenance or anything. Like you are experiencing he also tried to destroy me in the divorce. Good luck and hope you and dd have a lovely Christmas.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 15/12/2025 11:31

You should deffo send a couple photos a year as long as your DD is happy to.

It's nice for your DD to know she has a granny with a degree of interest in her. And presumably this woman isn't as much as prick as her son, so no point punishing her really.

I'd keep it light touch though - a couple of photos a year and a couple of voice notes, tops. Proper contact with granny could add to your DD's distress re her dad.

Purplecatshopaholic · 15/12/2025 11:35

If you DD is in agreement I would probably send a couple pics at Christmas and no more. But it’s your DDs call really.

Yogabearmous · 15/12/2025 11:36

I have sent photos to my ex mil despite her being quite nasty and a horrible person. I do this to show how beautiful and amazing my dd is and that we survived her unpleasant son. My dd wants no contact with either of them but is happy for me to send pics so that is what I do. I’m better than the hatred and vitriol they have for me. I have raised such an amazing girl, there is part of me that wants them to see that and all they missed out on due to their spite.

incognitomummy · 15/12/2025 11:36

I think as DD’s mum it is up to you to be the bigger person and to facilitate a relationship with the paternal GM. Regardless of who the father is, a granny relationship could be very rewarding for DD.
you don’t say where granny lives or how involved she was before. But I would consider cultivating that relationship separate to dad. If DD would like that.

but think about what ground rules you and DD need to keep safe. For example no mention of daddy. No inviting daddy without asking DD permission.

the objective for both you and granny should be to keep DD safe and to support her to be a confident young woman with a strong family network as her base.

yes. For now it requires you to be involved. But one day DD might be able to have her own relationship - in fact won’t be long now I guess given her age?

but I’d keep an eye and check in on it. Follow DD lead. Best of luck. He sounds like a complete loser.

Coffeeishot · 15/12/2025 11:37

Your Dd can have a separate relationship with her grandmother can't she ? I know her dad is awful but a regular call to her grandmother and send a photo now and again isn't going to hurt, I know it is something else for you to worry about but I think your Dd might thank you for it in the long run. Her dad sounds absolutely awful your poor Dd.

aCatCalledFawkes · 15/12/2025 11:39

I send pictures to both my ex-mils. It really doesn't bother me and if anything makes life a bit easier for the kids. One ex was a abusive and one was just bloody selfish but the kids still deserve grandparents in there lives.

Minjou · 15/12/2025 11:39

HoppityBun · 15/12/2025 11:26

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t send photos, with your DD’s permission. She has an extended family and a paternal grandmother who loves her and has done nothing wrong

Done nothing wrong? Apart from not bothering to contact or even enquire after her granddaughter for at least two years?

MsSquiz · 15/12/2025 11:39

HoppityBun · 15/12/2025 11:26

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t send photos, with your DD’s permission. She has an extended family and a paternal grandmother who loves her and has done nothing wrong

Maybe because the grandmother has made zero attempt to stay in the child’s life?

ComfortFoodCafe · 15/12/2025 11:41

I would let your DD decide if she wants contact or not, if she doesn’t stop sending things.

KimberleyClark · 15/12/2025 11:43

Why would you punish your ex mother in law for your ex’s cheating? And deprive your DD of a loving grandparent?

Daisy12Maisie · 15/12/2025 11:44

I used to see my gran regularly even when my dad wasn’t interested in seeing me or my siblings for years. My gran was a nice lady. My dad wasn’t very kind to her or to his children. I have good memories of my gran. We used to do baking and she used to let me go through all her different clothes and try things on. (Dressing up and with different shoes and handbags.)
So have boundaries and don’t let the gram be rude/ disrespectful to you but as long as she is polite I would send the odd picture and voice note. The dad may end up being sent the pictures but does it matter.

GreenGiant167 · 15/12/2025 11:47

As long as DD says it’s OK then I think you should send the pictures. This poor woman hasn’t done anything wrong and only wants to see what she looks like. So many paternal grandma’s can’t give a shit so, if DD is ok with it, give her a chance.

GAJLY · 15/12/2025 11:47

HoppityBun · 15/12/2025 11:26

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t send photos, with your DD’s permission. She has an extended family and a paternal grandmother who loves her and has done nothing wrong

I agree. It wouldn't be fair to punish her. I don't think your ex even cares about looking at forwarded photos of his daughter.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 15/12/2025 11:49

KimberleyClark · 15/12/2025 11:43

Why would you punish your ex mother in law for your ex’s cheating? And deprive your DD of a loving grandparent?

A loving grandparent who ignored the dd even existed. Doesn't sound very loving to me

NuffSaidSam · 15/12/2025 11:49

If his extended family are decent I would do what I could to facilitate their relationship. A child can't have too many people who love and care for them. If his family are as awful as him then fine to block them out.

One of my close friends has a child with a man who is an absolute waste of space, but his parents and his brother are completely different and her son has a close and loving relationship with his Grandparents and Uncle. It's also been a massive help for her as a single parent as they've spent loads of time with him and helped out with new shoes and school uniform etc. It can be a positive relationship.

TheatricalLife · 15/12/2025 11:53

It must be devastating to have a son who you know is a shit dad and a cheat and who has ruined your relationship with your grandchild. I do have a lot of sympathy for her.
My friend has two children with an absolute deadbeat. He hasn't seen, contacted or sent money for his children for years and years. Both now late teens, the youngest last saw him at 3 years old. They have managed to maintain a relationship with their grandparents with the agreement that their father isn't discussed. It was awkward at the beginning for friend, but they actually have a nice relationship now. The grandparents are supportive, have provided childcare over the years and they have the occasional dinner together. At the end of the day, their son is an adult and they are not at fault for his shitty behaviour.
You sound like a great mum.

thepariscrimefiles · 15/12/2025 11:53

I wouldn't bother. His mum lets him live with her and facilitates her son's dreadful behaviour towards you and your daughter.

She is reaping what she has sown by having no relationship with her grandaughter and it isn't your responsibility to fix this. Your ex-MIL could have refused to let him live with her unless he treated you and your daughter fairly in relation to maintenance payments and his relationship with your DD. He is an absolutely horrible father and your daughter will be better off without him in her life. She is only 7 and she can clearly see what an awful person he is.

Do not take on the responsibility of managing a relationship between your ex-MIL and your daughter. You owe her absolutely nothing.

Nia34 · 15/12/2025 11:53

Thank you All.
We needed to have a long conversation about this. It took DD some time to accept the idea that her photos might be sent and to understand that her grandma is not her dad. She said she does not like her because she associates her with her dad.
Just yesterday, she was crying and said she does not want to hear her grandma’s voice again because it upsets her and reminds her that her dad is not here. As I mentioned before, the last time they spent a lot of time together was when he stayed for an extended period, and when he left, she was more hurt than at any other time hence her reaction.
I'd also like to add that ex-mil lives abroad, and we used to see her only once a year.

OP posts:
UneAnneeSansLumiere · 15/12/2025 11:54

You absolutely don't owe this woman a thing. Tell her to ask her son why he is a deadbeat parent. I have no time for these old women who let their sons get away with nonsense.

Coffeeishot · 15/12/2025 11:56

If it upsets your Dd she is your priority, don't force her.

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