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The reactions to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack has shown how racist many posters are here.

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TheTamerShrew · 15/12/2025 09:24

I’m posting because I’m struggling with how racism against Jews is being talked about here following the recent terrorist attack in Australia. What I’ve seen, again and again, is minimisation: it wasn’t really about Jews, it was more complicated than that, let’s not jump to conclusions, other groups have it worse. All the familiar caveats come out remarkably quickly when the victims are Jewish.

I want to say clearly: racism against Jews is racism. Full stop. It doesn’t become less serious because it’s uncomfortable, politically inconvenient, or doesn’t fit neatly into how some people understand racism. And it doesn’t need to compete with other forms of racism to be real or worthy of being named.

What I find particularly painful is how often antisemitism is explained away rather than confronted. We would rightly challenge this pattern if it happened after an attack on almost any other minority group. Yet when Jews are targeted, there seems to be an urge to dilute, reframe, or downplay what’s happened.
I’d really ask people to pause and self-reflect on why that might be.

Why does naming antisemitism feel harder?
Why is there a rush to qualify it, contextualise it out of existence, or deny it altogether?
Why is Jewish fear so often treated as oversensitivity rather than a rational response to a long and very real history?

Acknowledging racism is not an accusation against everyone else. It’s the first, necessary step in confronting it. If we can’t even name antisemitism when it’s staring us in the face, we have no chance of challenging it, let alone preventing it.

We don’t make the world safer by minimising hatred. We make it safer by recognising it honestly, even when that recognition makes us uncomfortable.

I hope this can be read in the spirit it’s intended: not to shut down discussion, but to ask people to explore and self reflect.

See the attached photo: in order to become Anti-racist, one needs to first acknowledge racism

The reactions to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack has shown how racist many posters are here.
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Onceuponatimethen · 15/12/2025 09:25

I agree op. Those poor families gathering to celebrate.

GarlicBreadStan · 15/12/2025 09:33

I completely agree.

I won't lie, I'm not very educated on racism - I'm educated on the obvious things, but struggle to identify the other parts and hints of racism. And with research comes lots of conflicting information and I take everything at face value so struggle to know where to stand on a lot of things.

However, because I struggle with this, I choose not to say anything that could potentially be seen as racist. I keep comments to myself if I'm unsure where they'd stand. I don't see myself as racist, but my dad is a massive racist (though keeps his comments to himself more now) so that's why I can identify the bigger parts of racism, but perhaps not the snide comments as they go over my head.

Honestly if anyone can recommend a neutral, easy to understand website so I can educate myself, I would appreciate it.

TheTamerShrew · 15/12/2025 09:35

GarlicBreadStan · 15/12/2025 09:33

I completely agree.

I won't lie, I'm not very educated on racism - I'm educated on the obvious things, but struggle to identify the other parts and hints of racism. And with research comes lots of conflicting information and I take everything at face value so struggle to know where to stand on a lot of things.

However, because I struggle with this, I choose not to say anything that could potentially be seen as racist. I keep comments to myself if I'm unsure where they'd stand. I don't see myself as racist, but my dad is a massive racist (though keeps his comments to himself more now) so that's why I can identify the bigger parts of racism, but perhaps not the snide comments as they go over my head.

Honestly if anyone can recommend a neutral, easy to understand website so I can educate myself, I would appreciate it.

Thank you for being willing to learn, I really appreciate that.

Here is a website that specifically addresses Anti-Semitism and what it is:
holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

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ByQuaintAzureWasp · 15/12/2025 10:47

It shocks me that religious leaders of other religious, particularly that of attackers, do not come out in force to denounce the actions of the murderers

Onceuponatimethen · 15/12/2025 10:51

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CurlewKate · 15/12/2025 11:05

I have absolutely no problem naming anti Semitism. I have no problem saying that the Bondi Beach atrocity was an anti Semitic attack. I also have no trouble saying that it is possible to object very strongly to the behaviour of the Israeli government without being anti Semitic.

Cronte · 15/12/2025 11:15

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InterestedDad37 · 15/12/2025 11:18

Possible reasons why it's diluted, reframed, explained away etc (I agree with you that it is) are possibly all to do with Israel.
With regard to Jewishness, or being Islamic or whatever, as an atheist I personally genuinely don't care what religion someone identifies with, I find the whole notion of having a religious belief absurd. Yet I'll support and fight if nec for people's right to have a religion, as long as that religion doesn't impinge on my own life in any way.
Jewishness as a culture (putting the religion to one side), yes there's a lot of racism towards it, and Shylock in Shakespeare makes it clear this is not just an issue of modern times.

Littlebuddh · 15/12/2025 11:18

Awful just Awful.
I was watching it on GBnews live last night.
The world's gone mad.

PandoraSocks · 15/12/2025 11:21

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 15/12/2025 10:47

It shocks me that religious leaders of other religious, particularly that of attackers, do not come out in force to denounce the actions of the murderers

They are.

www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/sydney-muslims-refuse-funeral-rites-for-bondi-massacre-attackers/news-story/02de03b003a4e6b9e1b80b675c6e52dd

AllTheChaos · 15/12/2025 11:21

InterestedDad37 · 15/12/2025 11:18

Possible reasons why it's diluted, reframed, explained away etc (I agree with you that it is) are possibly all to do with Israel.
With regard to Jewishness, or being Islamic or whatever, as an atheist I personally genuinely don't care what religion someone identifies with, I find the whole notion of having a religious belief absurd. Yet I'll support and fight if nec for people's right to have a religion, as long as that religion doesn't impinge on my own life in any way.
Jewishness as a culture (putting the religion to one side), yes there's a lot of racism towards it, and Shylock in Shakespeare makes it clear this is not just an issue of modern times.

Not just against cultural Jewishness. My father was Jewish, and frankly looked it. He wasn’t religious, didn’t follow any of the cultural norms, and still experienced antiSemetic racism, including a physical attack on one occasion which left left him in hospital. It is the ‘othering’ and the the hatred of the ‘other’ as much as anything.

KimberleyClark · 15/12/2025 11:23

CurlewKate · 15/12/2025 11:05

I have absolutely no problem naming anti Semitism. I have no problem saying that the Bondi Beach atrocity was an anti Semitic attack. I also have no trouble saying that it is possible to object very strongly to the behaviour of the Israeli government without being anti Semitic.

Seconded. The Bondi Beach attack was dreadful and anti Semitic.

InterestedDad37 · 15/12/2025 11:24

AllTheChaos · 15/12/2025 11:21

Not just against cultural Jewishness. My father was Jewish, and frankly looked it. He wasn’t religious, didn’t follow any of the cultural norms, and still experienced antiSemetic racism, including a physical attack on one occasion which left left him in hospital. It is the ‘othering’ and the the hatred of the ‘other’ as much as anything.

Yes I agree with you. Been on the receiving end 'othering' (for very different reasons) when I was younger.

TwelvePiecesOfFlair · 15/12/2025 11:24

CurlewKate · 15/12/2025 11:05

I have absolutely no problem naming anti Semitism. I have no problem saying that the Bondi Beach atrocity was an anti Semitic attack. I also have no trouble saying that it is possible to object very strongly to the behaviour of the Israeli government without being anti Semitic.

WTF?
If a large group of families were celebrating Eid on a beach and were gunned down in cold blood, would you say “ I have no problem naming Islamophobia. I also have no problem saying the Iranian government commit atrocities”?
Like, WTF has the senseless murder of a 10 year old girl in Australia got to do with the Israeli/ Palestinian war??
YOU are part of the problem. Ffs

AllTheChaos · 15/12/2025 11:25

I meant to add, as Shakespeare shows, anti semitism has a long and ignoble history in this country, and Europe. The Jews being cast out by Matilda, robbed by the nobles, not allowed to own tools or property, thrown overboard or left to die on sandbanks when they tried to flee across the channel, pogroms in Europe, blood heretics, and on and on and on.

PandoraSocks · 15/12/2025 11:26

For the record. The Bondi attack was unspeakably evil, anti-semitic and inexcusable.

Fetaface · 15/12/2025 11:27

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You do know the person who grabbed the gun off the shooter was a muslim, right?

Cronte · 15/12/2025 11:27

And all the Free Palestine mob have blood on their hands. They have poured fuel on the fire. Every Jew online gets called a Zionist. Even if they categorically state otherwise. Useful bloody idiots.

Look she comment section of ANY Jew on TikTok. It’s appalling.

Sikhs stand with Jews

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 15/12/2025 11:27

A lot of people forget or are unaware that Jewish is an ethnicity in and of itself. They're not white in the sense we see skin colour, they are Jewish.

Most others just see the usual Jews vs Muslims conflict.

Unfortunately this is what multiculturalism gets you; sectarian violence. People aren't blank slates and cannot be forced to integrate.

Cronte · 15/12/2025 11:28

Fetaface · 15/12/2025 11:27

You do know the person who grabbed the gun off the shooter was a muslim, right?

Ok and I don’t see how that changes the fact that Islamic terrorism is a massive threat.

AllTheChaos · 15/12/2025 11:28

TwelvePiecesOfFlair · 15/12/2025 11:24

WTF?
If a large group of families were celebrating Eid on a beach and were gunned down in cold blood, would you say “ I have no problem naming Islamophobia. I also have no problem saying the Iranian government commit atrocities”?
Like, WTF has the senseless murder of a 10 year old girl in Australia got to do with the Israeli/ Palestinian war??
YOU are part of the problem. Ffs

Yep. It’s like, “well obviously murdering children and holocaust survivors is wrong… but”. Makes me think of the old line, “I’m not racist, but”, always followed by a racist comment!

xmasstress12 · 15/12/2025 11:29

I agree and it’s terrifying

AllTheChaos · 15/12/2025 11:30

Fetaface · 15/12/2025 11:27

You do know the person who grabbed the gun off the shooter was a muslim, right?

I am actually really grateful for that, as it will help to stop sectarian violence being stirred up by the actions of terrorists, I hope.

TwelvePiecesOfFlair · 15/12/2025 11:31

I am a Zionist. I wasn’t when young, but I am now, and increasingly so. It just means the belief in the existence of the state of Israel. Where the fuck can Jews go now?? Not back to Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, Sudan?? Not back to Russia or Ukraine. And seemingly not to the UK or Australia. Im so angry.

LeonMccogh · 15/12/2025 11:31

CurlewKate · 15/12/2025 11:05

I have absolutely no problem naming anti Semitism. I have no problem saying that the Bondi Beach atrocity was an anti Semitic attack. I also have no trouble saying that it is possible to object very strongly to the behaviour of the Israeli government without being anti Semitic.

THIS.

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