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For not reporting male colleague's inappropriate behaviour?

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Eli9 · 13/12/2025 10:59

My colleague has been behaving inappropriately for a long while. He comments on what I’m wearing every time he sees me, noticing tiny details, for example, he once said, “Your earrings are in the shape of a bow,” and another time asked if I’d dyed my hair because it looked lighter. He once said he remembers the first time he saw me; I was wearing such and such top.

He’s done things like walk me to the staff room and then tell another colleague, “I escorted X downstairs as if she doesn’t know the building.” I’ve also found him sitting alone in my classroom, even though he doesn’t teach there. He once stood outside my classroom watching me teach, then commented that my class was very engaged and suggested I should be appointed to teach a certain category of students to improve retention. Multiple times, he's said X and X colleague have said they love working with you.

He’s asked me out a few times. First for a drink, I said no. Months later he asked for coffee, I said no-I’m always busy. He offered to buy me coffee, I said no, I have my own hot drink.

On one occasion, he came to my staff room when I was feeling unwell and said, “You look fantastic for someone who’s sick.” The other day after buying what I needed in the cafeteria, I left without saying bye, went up the stairs and I noticed him looking for me, he even went down a flight of stairs and back up trying to find me.

He’s looked at my timetable and commented on my hours this term. He told me he’s single and has no children, even though I never asked. Yesterday in the staff room, I said I was looking forward to the winter break and having nothing to do. He replied, “I can’t imagine a single mother having nothing to do,” and immediately apologised. I’ve never told him I’m single, so it felt like he was trying to find out my relationship status. Later, he commented on how casually I was dressed and said, “I’ll let you go before I say something I shouldn’t.”

I haven’t reported him because I’m a contractor, so I don’t work every term and we aren't in the same team. I’ve been avoiding him as much as possible. I've ignored him multiple times. Looked at him with disgust and he still goes on. He’s been at the organisation for 12 years, is well-liked, and is doing funded research, so disciplinary action would have serious consequences for him. I don't want to be the person to ruin this for him as he's been working on this for 6 years. I’m also afraid of how other colleagues might see me, because I’m the youngest in the school. They might think I’ve brought this on myself and side with him. If that happened, I’d have to leave the workplace, but I can’t, as I need the experience to progress in my career.

He’s 15 years older than me, and although he hasn’t said this, I suspect he may be looking for a younger woman who could have children.

OP posts:
Skippydoodle · 13/12/2025 21:25

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:49

I thought I’d included enough insight into the matter to give readers an idea. Do you feel it’s not enough, in the sense that he would need to do more for you to see it as inappropriate?

I think most of what you have posted is just general friendly chit chat between colleagues. If he’s asked you for a coffee, he obviously likes what he sees too. It’s not the offence of the year though - you don’t have to like him back. I think you are being really sensitive.

BigAnne · 13/12/2025 21:29

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:42

My point regarding the earrings comment, as several posters have focused on it, is that it shows a broader pattern of behaviour. He looks me up and down from head to toe, with his gaze visibly moving over my body, including his head moving downward as he looks at lower parts of my body, and then proceeds to make a comment. I make sure that our interactions are brief, but he manages to do this in the few minutes. It’s weird!

You're an adult. Why don't you call him out on it?

EBearhug · 13/12/2025 21:29

HR are there to manage personnel issues not to substitute for employees missing backbones. Women are not fragile flowers, this is not the Victorian age, and you have the nerve to call ME a dinosaur!! It is about time people started standing up for themselves and not calling on Big Brother to watch over all of their interpersonal interactions.

Do you have no understanding that people worry about losing their own jobs if a complaint isn't dealt with well? Or a situation escalating and becoming worse when it's already difficult to deal with? There are numerous reasons why people don't report, which can include lacking courage. I don't think you're a dinosaur, but I do think you lack empathy and understanding.

mummybearsurrey · 13/12/2025 21:36

Glitchymn1 · 13/12/2025 21:12

Just say I want to keep our interactions strictly professional. Please don’t comment on my appearance or personal life as it makes me uncomfortable.

Next time - Do this.

if his behaviour persists beyond that very clear moment, you should repeat it.

3rd time - report it.

silverwrath · 13/12/2025 21:57

The 1970's handmaidens are out in force on this thread. Just waiting for Germaine Greer to show up.

Chastising silly women who get upset by 'male attention'.

ChavsAreReal · 13/12/2025 22:01

NostalgiaWhore · 13/12/2025 21:10

HR are there to manage personnel issues not to substitute for employees missing backbones. Women are not fragile flowers, this is not the Victorian age, and you have the nerve to call ME a dinosaur!! It is about time people started standing up for themselves and not calling on Big Brother to watch over all of their interpersonal interactions.

Now, if after OP is clear - not only that she doesn't want to go out with him - but that his attention/company/friendliness is unwanted, and he still persists, then (if it were me) I would speak with co-workers to see if he is like that with others, and what they might advise. Strength is in numbers not in running to daddy HR.

Do you realise that the OP isn't an employee? The man in question is a long serving employee with full employee rights.

The OP is a contractor.

She is rightly worried that if she raises this, it could backfire on her. It shouldn't, but it could. It would be easier to get rid of her than deal with him.

'Strength' is in being a long-serving, senior member of staff.

Hiptothisjive · 13/12/2025 22:17

NostalgiaWhore · 13/12/2025 21:10

HR are there to manage personnel issues not to substitute for employees missing backbones. Women are not fragile flowers, this is not the Victorian age, and you have the nerve to call ME a dinosaur!! It is about time people started standing up for themselves and not calling on Big Brother to watch over all of their interpersonal interactions.

Now, if after OP is clear - not only that she doesn't want to go out with him - but that his attention/company/friendliness is unwanted, and he still persists, then (if it were me) I would speak with co-workers to see if he is like that with others, and what they might advise. Strength is in numbers not in running to daddy HR.

Completely totally and utterly nailed it. 👏.

Hiptothisjive · 13/12/2025 22:18

EBearhug · 13/12/2025 21:29

HR are there to manage personnel issues not to substitute for employees missing backbones. Women are not fragile flowers, this is not the Victorian age, and you have the nerve to call ME a dinosaur!! It is about time people started standing up for themselves and not calling on Big Brother to watch over all of their interpersonal interactions.

Do you have no understanding that people worry about losing their own jobs if a complaint isn't dealt with well? Or a situation escalating and becoming worse when it's already difficult to deal with? There are numerous reasons why people don't report, which can include lacking courage. I don't think you're a dinosaur, but I do think you lack empathy and understanding.

It isn’t lacking empathy or understanding it’s about being realistic and knowing the situation.

PigeonsandSquirrels · 13/12/2025 23:14

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 11:43

I see where you’re coming from; however, if he senses I might go to HR, he would 100% beat me to it and report me for bullying (telling him off for his behaviour). As I mentioned earlier, I have no real evidence of these incidents. He could say anything, and it would be my word against his. He is also more senior than me and a full time employee. They might even ask why I didn’t complain earlier and let it drag on this long.

Could you go to HR and tell them that you don’t want to file a complaint yet but that you are going to ask the colleague to stop commenting on your appearance and asking you out because it makes you uncomfortable. You are afraid he will retaliate maliciously so wanted to warn them what you were doing before you did?

Idk… kind of making him fall in his own sword if he goes in to get you in trouble after?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 14/12/2025 05:26

C8H10N4O2 · 13/12/2025 17:58

IME the first question HR would ask was the circumstances and how often followed by asking the creep why he thought it was appropriate to make a continuing series of personal comments about the OP’s appearance, including touching her clothes uninvited and persisting after she has rejected his advances three times. Especially where the creep was in a position of seniority meaning the victim doesn’t not always feel able to say “fuck off". They may also give helpful advice on managing future comments but that is separate.

One comment might be innocent, an ongoing series isn’t. However since the OP works in the school where “HR” is likely to be access to a centralised remote service rather than an onsite staffer available in person.

Its not catastrophising to point out that most violence against women starts as low grade harassment and controls. The most skilled predators are those who judge the harassment so that each incident in itself will likely be dismissed in exactly the way posters have dismissed them on this thread. The only missing comment so far is the inevitable “you should be flattered”.

Women should not have to put up with this shit in 2025 but so long as other women rush to protect predators as poor misunderstood loves and blame the women for having to consider their job security before making a complaint then nothing will change.

Agreed - women should not have to put up with this shit. But, yep, you are catastrophising to fuck and behind. I do not think even the OP is suggesting that this continuous low level harassment is going to escalate to violence and worse

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 14/12/2025 05:27

Glitchymn1 · 13/12/2025 21:12

Just say I want to keep our interactions strictly professional. Please don’t comment on my appearance or personal life as it makes me uncomfortable.

This is perfect and to the point

Femalemachinest · 14/12/2025 08:22

Hiptothisjive · 13/12/2025 22:18

It isn’t lacking empathy or understanding it’s about being realistic and knowing the situation.

I think it is about lack of understanding. Have you been in this position? I have.

I feel uncomfortable when my harasser is anywhere around me. He can come over to speak to someone else and I go quiet, waiting for him to leave. I can hear his voice on the next line and think will you just fuck off. His presence now just makes me uncomfortable.

Hiptothisjive · 14/12/2025 09:31

Femalemachinest · 14/12/2025 08:22

I think it is about lack of understanding. Have you been in this position? I have.

I feel uncomfortable when my harasser is anywhere around me. He can come over to speak to someone else and I go quiet, waiting for him to leave. I can hear his voice on the next line and think will you just fuck off. His presence now just makes me uncomfortable.

Yes I have (more than once) and told him to stop and he did. One didn't and I spoke to their manager.

Having empathy for a situation doesn’t negate advising someone to deal with the situation.

ChavsAreReal · 14/12/2025 09:52

Hiptothisjive · 13/12/2025 22:18

It isn’t lacking empathy or understanding it’s about being realistic and knowing the situation.

The most fundamental misunderstanding about the situation, is that the OP is an employee. She's not. She's a junior contractor.

If the op was a long-serving, senior member of staff, this wouldn't be happening.

If you had empathy or understanding you'd realise this.

1989whome · 14/12/2025 10:16

He sounds full on! Either call him out on his behaviour or just flat out ignore him. Don't acknowledge him, he will get the hint. If he asks tell him you have no interest in his opinions on you. You have to be firm with some people. They pick the ones they see as weaker coz they can make you feel uncomfortable. Don't let him! Who cares who thinks your wrong? They are not putting up with the harassment

thepariscrimefiles · 14/12/2025 10:53

NostalgiaWhore · 13/12/2025 21:10

HR are there to manage personnel issues not to substitute for employees missing backbones. Women are not fragile flowers, this is not the Victorian age, and you have the nerve to call ME a dinosaur!! It is about time people started standing up for themselves and not calling on Big Brother to watch over all of their interpersonal interactions.

Now, if after OP is clear - not only that she doesn't want to go out with him - but that his attention/company/friendliness is unwanted, and he still persists, then (if it were me) I would speak with co-workers to see if he is like that with others, and what they might advise. Strength is in numbers not in running to daddy HR.

HR should be there to protect the organisation by ensuring that internal policies are followed correctly and that there are no breaches of employment laws that could result in a tribunal or court case that would damage the reputation of the organisation.

All employers now have a legal duty to take 'reasonable steps' to prevent sexual harassment, a requirement reinforced by the Worker Protection Act (2023) effective October 2024, meaning they must proactively prevent it, not just react, often through robust policies, training, and risk assessments.

OP should be able to report this to HR and for them to support her. Your language about 'missing backbones' and 'fragile flowers' is misplaced and inappropriate. Some women will be able to raise the issue with the perpetrator but others will not, particularly if the perpetrator is their boss or someone more senior than them.

BB088 · 14/12/2025 10:54

It’s actually insane how many victim blaming comments there are here and advice to put up with it! It’s 2025!

The law on sexual harassment in the workplace is now very very clear - and regardless of the archaic posts on this thread, the actions you’ve described and the way you feel, the power imbalance, this is sexual harassment and would be viewed as such. You don’t need hard evidence, but you 100% should go and speak to your HR person and they will know how to deal with this. Explain your worries about possible action and they’ll work with you to make sure you are onboard with any actions but they have a duty of care and if this was happening in the business I support then I would want to know about it.

It doesn’t matter if he is doing these things because he has a crush, or because of any neurodivergency, or any other reason, the actions are the actions and they are still totally inappropriate and I can understand why you feel how you feel.

BB088 · 14/12/2025 10:56

thepariscrimefiles · 14/12/2025 10:53

HR should be there to protect the organisation by ensuring that internal policies are followed correctly and that there are no breaches of employment laws that could result in a tribunal or court case that would damage the reputation of the organisation.

All employers now have a legal duty to take 'reasonable steps' to prevent sexual harassment, a requirement reinforced by the Worker Protection Act (2023) effective October 2024, meaning they must proactively prevent it, not just react, often through robust policies, training, and risk assessments.

OP should be able to report this to HR and for them to support her. Your language about 'missing backbones' and 'fragile flowers' is misplaced and inappropriate. Some women will be able to raise the issue with the perpetrator but others will not, particularly if the perpetrator is their boss or someone more senior than them.

Agree! This sort of thing is literally the job of HR - we are there to protect the employees, work within the law which in turn protects the business. The poster you were responding to clearly is a dinosaur!

tammie49 · 14/12/2025 11:23

I am not for one second excusing this behaviour but it sounds very much to me like this colleague could have ASD. Especially the fact he has such a detailed memory. The best way to deal with this would be to address each comment at the time and be very direct, if he does have ASD then subtlety and hints or dirty looks won't likely work. If you see no improvement then you probably should report him or at least have an informal chat with someone senior. He does needs to learn that this isn't appropriate behaviour.

Vodka1 · 14/12/2025 11:57

Uh, I'm forever pointing out earrings to people. Is it really that creepy to look at someones ears because my eyes are naturally drawn to earrings, especially if someone has multiple piercings there.

I know this is just an added thing in a whole ball of stuff for the OP but I'm really interested now.... am I making people uncomfortable lmao

NovemberMorn · 14/12/2025 12:08

EleanorReally · 13/12/2025 19:42

how do you conclude that he is looking for someone to have children with op?

Yes, it's a bit of a stretch.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/12/2025 12:17

Vodka1 · 14/12/2025 11:57

Uh, I'm forever pointing out earrings to people. Is it really that creepy to look at someones ears because my eyes are naturally drawn to earrings, especially if someone has multiple piercings there.

I know this is just an added thing in a whole ball of stuff for the OP but I'm really interested now.... am I making people uncomfortable lmao

Depends. Are you a bloke who doesn't take the refusal of three dates as an answer?

ChavsAreReal · 14/12/2025 12:23

Vodka1 · 14/12/2025 11:57

Uh, I'm forever pointing out earrings to people. Is it really that creepy to look at someones ears because my eyes are naturally drawn to earrings, especially if someone has multiple piercings there.

I know this is just an added thing in a whole ball of stuff for the OP but I'm really interested now.... am I making people uncomfortable lmao

Just in case this is a genuine question.

Admiring someone's earrings is generally fine.

In this context, it is one part of a series of unwanted comments about appearance/personality and repeatedly asking a junior colleague out.

That is what makes it creepy.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/12/2025 12:27

tammie49 · 14/12/2025 11:23

I am not for one second excusing this behaviour but it sounds very much to me like this colleague could have ASD. Especially the fact he has such a detailed memory. The best way to deal with this would be to address each comment at the time and be very direct, if he does have ASD then subtlety and hints or dirty looks won't likely work. If you see no improvement then you probably should report him or at least have an informal chat with someone senior. He does needs to learn that this isn't appropriate behaviour.

He's a senior member of staff in an educational establishment - not a child. He should already know that repeatedly asking a younger women in the workplace out on dates and making personal comments about her is inappropriate.

He's exercising his power over a younger woman and she's working out how to stop him without putting her own job at risk.

NovemberMorn · 14/12/2025 12:37

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/12/2025 12:27

He's a senior member of staff in an educational establishment - not a child. He should already know that repeatedly asking a younger women in the workplace out on dates and making personal comments about her is inappropriate.

He's exercising his power over a younger woman and she's working out how to stop him without putting her own job at risk.

So surely the best way to do this would be to pluck up courage and tell him politely but firmly that his personal comments are inappropriate and they make her feel uncomfortable...sometimes besotted men have to have things spelled out in strong and simple language they understand.

IF he carries on after being told, then is the time to bring in management.