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For not reporting male colleague's inappropriate behaviour?

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Eli9 · 13/12/2025 10:59

My colleague has been behaving inappropriately for a long while. He comments on what I’m wearing every time he sees me, noticing tiny details, for example, he once said, “Your earrings are in the shape of a bow,” and another time asked if I’d dyed my hair because it looked lighter. He once said he remembers the first time he saw me; I was wearing such and such top.

He’s done things like walk me to the staff room and then tell another colleague, “I escorted X downstairs as if she doesn’t know the building.” I’ve also found him sitting alone in my classroom, even though he doesn’t teach there. He once stood outside my classroom watching me teach, then commented that my class was very engaged and suggested I should be appointed to teach a certain category of students to improve retention. Multiple times, he's said X and X colleague have said they love working with you.

He’s asked me out a few times. First for a drink, I said no. Months later he asked for coffee, I said no-I’m always busy. He offered to buy me coffee, I said no, I have my own hot drink.

On one occasion, he came to my staff room when I was feeling unwell and said, “You look fantastic for someone who’s sick.” The other day after buying what I needed in the cafeteria, I left without saying bye, went up the stairs and I noticed him looking for me, he even went down a flight of stairs and back up trying to find me.

He’s looked at my timetable and commented on my hours this term. He told me he’s single and has no children, even though I never asked. Yesterday in the staff room, I said I was looking forward to the winter break and having nothing to do. He replied, “I can’t imagine a single mother having nothing to do,” and immediately apologised. I’ve never told him I’m single, so it felt like he was trying to find out my relationship status. Later, he commented on how casually I was dressed and said, “I’ll let you go before I say something I shouldn’t.”

I haven’t reported him because I’m a contractor, so I don’t work every term and we aren't in the same team. I’ve been avoiding him as much as possible. I've ignored him multiple times. Looked at him with disgust and he still goes on. He’s been at the organisation for 12 years, is well-liked, and is doing funded research, so disciplinary action would have serious consequences for him. I don't want to be the person to ruin this for him as he's been working on this for 6 years. I’m also afraid of how other colleagues might see me, because I’m the youngest in the school. They might think I’ve brought this on myself and side with him. If that happened, I’d have to leave the workplace, but I can’t, as I need the experience to progress in my career.

He’s 15 years older than me, and although he hasn’t said this, I suspect he may be looking for a younger woman who could have children.

OP posts:
Schoolchoicesucks · 13/12/2025 13:19

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 11:28

Again, I feel that if I’m abrupt, he may go ahead and report it and turn the situation around. It would be my word against his, as I have no evidence of these occurrences other than what he’s said verbally.
My colleague has also said (not about my situation as I've not told anyone at work) that the organisation tends to side with the person who has made a complaint. His job is more important than mine, so they'll keep him and get rid of me.

Being "abrupt" is not bullying, I don't really understand why you think HR would take a complaint about this seriously. What would he say "I asked her out 3 times, followed her around the school, stalked her timetable and hung around in her classroom, commented on her appearance and when she asked me to stop and leave her alone it hurt my feelings"?

Politely turning down his invitations and giving him stern glares isn't working. You need to try being firmer and clear with him that his behaviour is making you uncomfortable and you don't want to spend any more time together than is necessary and certainly no time together alone.

If you are concerned something may go to a "he said she said" situation then you are not helping yourself by keeping this all to yourself. I would suggest confiding in a supportive colleague around the same time as you tell him to back off.

ContentedAlpaca · 13/12/2025 13:19

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 12:57

Thank you for all the useful suggestions and advice. I think I’ll wait for him to make a comment about my appearance or anything I deem inappropriate , and then say that it makes me feel uncomfortable, lie and say I have a partner or am back with my husband.
I think it’s right that I have to be very very clear.

I don't think I would say anything about partners. That suggests you think he's making a play for you. Saying it's inappropriate between colleagues keeps things on a professional footing, draws a firm boundary and. doesn't go into any personal detail.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/12/2025 13:19

Sorry that you've been subjected to so many awful comments on here OP from those with zero insight into how power and status can be a block for so many women reporting someone harassing them.

I'd second the need to make a record - you don't need to use it but it's helpful if ever you do - especially the invitations and your response. Keep it as factual as you can recording the language used if you can remember.

Remember - you can't change someone else's behaviour but can change your own to get a different response? I'd probably avoid sitting near him in the staffroom. If he joins your group, quietly say "right, must go and chase up / find/ speak to" and remove yourself. Maybe not every time but occasionally.
You could consider if you find him in lurking in your classroom again, waiting by the door, asking him if you can help and staying there until he's removed himself - let your body language tell him that cosy 1 - 1 chats are unwanted?

I'de also rehearse a response to personal questions "I keep my personal life separate from my working life". "Thanks for asking but I'm not interested in coffee / dinner/ cinema " or whatever. Then when you're in a stressful situation where he's intruding, you've got a response that you're already rehearsed. AND you're clearly telling him (again) that you're not interested.

He's a man in a position of power who's decided he wants a relationship with a younger women in his workplace and there's no reason why you have to comply. Trust your instincts, be politely assertive and record everything so that if his behaviour becomes more inappropriate / intense you have a record of what's happened and how you've responded.

themerchentofvenus · 13/12/2025 13:19

@Eli9 the guy clearly likes you and is trying to get himself noticed by you.

If others respect him and think he is OK then it's likely he perhaps doesn't meet single women often, and because you haven't made it clear enough you're not interested then he will just keep on trying to impress you with his 'attention to detail' as he thinks he has a chance.

Personally I'd just invent a boyfriend, or you could just chat to him, ask him some questions about his life, then say that after your divorce you have no desire to date again in the near future and are very happy being single and enjoying life with your kids.

That way you can make it clear you are off the market without actually saying that you have no interest in him.

Whatsthatsheila · 13/12/2025 13:26

BeatrixPotterSchoolGirl · 13/12/2025 13:15

Speak to him first….Tell him not to make personal comments…if he argues or moans, stay polite….tell him if he won’t comply with your request , you will report him. A friend of mine shamed a work colleague by shouting loudly in a half crowded room …..
“I have told you before, stop with your personal comments”…
You could hear a pin drop, she said….but the harassment stopped.

As empowering as that was for your friend and it’s wonderful it worked - that could easily backfire on OP in an organisation that doesn’t support people making these complaints. It’s not right but 🤷‍♀️

MayaPinion · 13/12/2025 13:29

It sounds like he’s stalking you. I’ve been in similar shoes. We shouldn’t have to do this - as others have said - but the thing that got rid of mine was having another man visibly present. Talk about having a boyfriend or partner and if you have a male friend/cousin or brother get them to drop you off or meet you at the end of work for a few days. Ask him what he thinks you should get your boyfriend for Christmas, etc.

Whatsthatsheila · 13/12/2025 13:29

@Eli9 would this constitute a Clare’s law disclosure from the police?

if he’s got any past convictions that could strengthen a complaint at work?
perhaps someone with more knowledge than me could advise

if you geek increasingly uncomfortable maybe a discreet secret recording device that can you can use to gather evidence of his unwanted behaviour -
it’s obviously harassment.

but also just to sit on the fence - have you ever actively and assertively discouraged him? Perhaps being “polite” is making him feel “hey I’m in with a chance as she’s not told me to fuck off” - maybe he’s just really inept at reading “oh my god fuck off ans leave me alone” vibes and genuinely doesn’t know you are creeped out.

if you haven’t firmly asserted your unease there could be an argument that he genuinely has no clue he’s overstepping

if you have made it clear - “look no offence but I’m finding your Constant presence unnerving” could just be the answer.
however I also appreciate it’s difficult to sometimes say that and also sometimes it can escalate unwanted attention

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 13/12/2025 13:31

You need to put your big girl pants on and talk to him. Nothing he is doing is reportable, particularly if you haven't told him it makes you feel uncomfortable. Agree with that there you n ed to spell out your boundaries and then enforce them. If he doesn't listen then report. If you are uncomfortable having the conversation with him maybe talk about a date/ boyfriend in front of him. If he presses for details just tell him you're not comfortable sharing details of your personal life or a flippant ' I don't kiss and tell' should do the trick.

NovemberMorn · 13/12/2025 13:31

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 12:54

I’d like to add that the earrings were pretty small, and I had my hair down, so for him to really check me out in detail or notice the earrings I was wearing is strange. I mentioned this incident to show how he fully checks me out from head to toe and doesn’t miss a thing. He once felt my coat at the back of my chair and a scarf I was actually wearing; I said, 'What are you doing?' and pulled my scarf away. He said, 'Oh, sorry, it just feels nice and warm.'

Some of the instances, like the earing comment, are nothing to get bothered about imo. He obviously likes you, and he is looking for ways to compliment you.
Other things are creepy, touching the clothes you are wearing, is going too far.

In the past, when I have had men making constant 'flattering' remarks, I have made it clear I don't welcome then, if that doesn't work, totally ignore.

It would be good if you could confide to another colleague that he makes you feel uncomfortable.

Don't make up stories that you have a partner etc....just don't offer any personal info about yourself.

If tall hat doesn't work, only then would I consider reporting him.

hihelenhi · 13/12/2025 13:35

While you have every right to feel uncomfortable with unwanted attention, and to escalate if it continues, I do think it would be advantageous to you if you are able to be firm, clear and direct with him yourself and not just rely on the indirect hints you've tried so far before escalating to formal reporting, although as others have suggested, it's definitely worth mentioning informally to someone else too.

Not because it's victim blaming, he absolutely should know better, but because confidently reiterating your professional boundaries with people like this who seem to be relying on the fact you're being "nice" and won't and looking for "ins" can stop them in their tracks. (it also covers you for future reporting if they, as this guy may, do the opposite, as well as knowing you can stand up for yourself more confidently going forward in your teaching career). Some of what you mentioned, like the earrings for example, or complimenting you professionally don't in themselves constitute sexual harassment, but he shows worrying signs of encroaching personal space boundaries, so I think being clear with yourself as well as him on what isn't appropriate in your professional setting and reiterating it, can only be beneficial. Then keep a record of anything more he does.

I'm unclear why you think he is likely to rush and report you for bullying if you say anything at all. I get that the whole pressure to 'be kind and nice" thing can make women far, far less assertive than we all need to be, but we don't need to feed into it. I think standing up for yourself and setting professional boundaries clearly and firmly yourself before rushing to report so someone else can do it is perfectly acceptable, and likely to have a better outcome all round and not just in this situation.

I also REALLY don't think you should have to lie about having a partner to do it. That's just another way of being indirect and leaves people an "opening" if they find out you're not - in fact, it needs to be made clear to him that your personal life and status is none of his business as a colleague at all.

EnidSpyton · 13/12/2025 13:39

I've been there, OP, and I totally understand. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this.

It's hard to report what is minor, unevidenced and easily explained away or excused as being 'misunderstood'. This is why so many men get away with this kind of behaviour and so many women have to suffer with this shit at work. Ignore the idiots on here telling you to 'put on your big girl pants' or to 'use your words' (odious, infantilising and misogynistic phrases) - these kinds of encounters with men in workplaces are fraught with difficulty over issues of power and control and it is so challenging when you have doubts over how well your management will support you if you complain.

Of course he is harassing you. You shouldn't have to make anything clear and you shouldn't have to invent a man to 'protect' you from him. He shouldn't be doing this stuff in the first place. He's not some poor misguided soul who just can't understand your mixed messaging. It is point blank not appropriate to comment on a colleague's appearance, to follow them around, to watch them at their work with no legitimate reason, and so on. You wouldn't find a female colleague doing this to you. Men do this because they think they have a right to say and do what they want to women, and largely they think this because they can, as society lets them get away with it. Note so many of the comments on this thread from women, who are quick to minimise and blame you for this man's behaviour. If women don't even support other women, how can we expect to feel safe and supported in our workplaces when we complain about this behaviour?

You have to write down every time something happens. Date it and describe it factually in a sentence, and then how it made you feel. Over time it will form a big enough picture for you to go to HR.

In the meantime, I find a breezy 'I'd rather you didn't comment on my appearance, thanks' or 'I'm really busy, I don't have time to chat now', works to get out of the situation. Make sure you are never alone with him and keep moving if he tries to stop you to chat - he will want to corner you or get you alone, so you need to be strategic about always manoeuvring your way out of those situations.

I would also confide in a female colleague if you can. You may well find once you start talking about it, that he's not as well liked as you think, and has plenty of form for this kind of thing. Together you can do a lot more than you can alone.

BeatrixPotterSchoolGirl · 13/12/2025 13:40

Whatsthatsheila · 13/12/2025 13:26

As empowering as that was for your friend and it’s wonderful it worked - that could easily backfire on OP in an organisation that doesn’t support people making these complaints. It’s not right but 🤷‍♀️

Unwanted attention leads to harassment, stalking or worse....

LittleMi55Nobody · 13/12/2025 13:43

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 10:59

My colleague has been behaving inappropriately for a long while. He comments on what I’m wearing every time he sees me, noticing tiny details, for example, he once said, “Your earrings are in the shape of a bow,” and another time asked if I’d dyed my hair because it looked lighter. He once said he remembers the first time he saw me; I was wearing such and such top.

He’s done things like walk me to the staff room and then tell another colleague, “I escorted X downstairs as if she doesn’t know the building.” I’ve also found him sitting alone in my classroom, even though he doesn’t teach there. He once stood outside my classroom watching me teach, then commented that my class was very engaged and suggested I should be appointed to teach a certain category of students to improve retention. Multiple times, he's said X and X colleague have said they love working with you.

He’s asked me out a few times. First for a drink, I said no. Months later he asked for coffee, I said no-I’m always busy. He offered to buy me coffee, I said no, I have my own hot drink.

On one occasion, he came to my staff room when I was feeling unwell and said, “You look fantastic for someone who’s sick.” The other day after buying what I needed in the cafeteria, I left without saying bye, went up the stairs and I noticed him looking for me, he even went down a flight of stairs and back up trying to find me.

He’s looked at my timetable and commented on my hours this term. He told me he’s single and has no children, even though I never asked. Yesterday in the staff room, I said I was looking forward to the winter break and having nothing to do. He replied, “I can’t imagine a single mother having nothing to do,” and immediately apologised. I’ve never told him I’m single, so it felt like he was trying to find out my relationship status. Later, he commented on how casually I was dressed and said, “I’ll let you go before I say something I shouldn’t.”

I haven’t reported him because I’m a contractor, so I don’t work every term and we aren't in the same team. I’ve been avoiding him as much as possible. I've ignored him multiple times. Looked at him with disgust and he still goes on. He’s been at the organisation for 12 years, is well-liked, and is doing funded research, so disciplinary action would have serious consequences for him. I don't want to be the person to ruin this for him as he's been working on this for 6 years. I’m also afraid of how other colleagues might see me, because I’m the youngest in the school. They might think I’ve brought this on myself and side with him. If that happened, I’d have to leave the workplace, but I can’t, as I need the experience to progress in my career.

He’s 15 years older than me, and although he hasn’t said this, I suspect he may be looking for a younger woman who could have children.

my daughter is experiencing this...a person who is infactuated with her...emailing her 100+ times a day...(the most 199)...she is always telling him she doesnt want a relationship with him and just wants to be friends..she can't avoid him as they work at the same charity

hihelenhi · 13/12/2025 13:44

LittleMi55Nobody · 13/12/2025 13:43

my daughter is experiencing this...a person who is infactuated with her...emailing her 100+ times a day...(the most 199)...she is always telling him she doesnt want a relationship with him and just wants to be friends..she can't avoid him as they work at the same charity

Has this been escalated? As it absolutely should be in HR's hands by this stage, this goes well beyond anything that could be dealt with informally.

Whatsthatsheila · 13/12/2025 13:48

BeatrixPotterSchoolGirl · 13/12/2025 13:40

Unwanted attention leads to harassment, stalking or worse....

I do totally agree. And women should be able to make it clear that attention is unwanted with no repercussions but unfortunately that’s not how the world works - which is Kind of the whole point of the thread

Sadza · 13/12/2025 13:50

You need to tell him. Every time he comments say that’s private, that’s not appropriate or that makes me feel uncomfortable. Until you do this I’m not sure you have much to report. If you do this and it continues then you should report.

Horserider5678 · 13/12/2025 13:50

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EleanorReally · 13/12/2025 13:52

thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:00

You've read the OP and you've managed to come up with this victim-blaming comment minimising and excusing what is quite clearly inappropriate behaviour from an older and more senior male member of staff towards his much younger female colleage?

There is a power inbalance here that he is exploiting shamelessly.

there is no victim blaming Hmm

Grammarninja · 13/12/2025 13:55

This could just as easily be a thread named, "Does he fancy me?" The difference here is that you're not hoping that he does. He doesn't know this unless you make it very clear. His behaviour wouldn't be seen as inappropriate if he was someone you were interested in romantically. He's hoping that might be the case.
I wouldn't be reporting him until I had told him that I wasn't at all interested in him that way. If the behaviours persist after that, then report him.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 13/12/2025 13:55

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On behalf of other women born in the 1970's I'd like to apologise for those who believe that you have to wait for a violent sexual assault before you've got anything to be unhappy about (and would then most likely criticise you for probably having deserved it/led him on in the first place).

We aren't all like this.

EBearhug · 13/12/2025 13:57

lie and say I have a partner or am back with my husband.

You don't need to do this bit. Single women have as much right as partnered women not to be harassed. He shouldn't be making you feel uncomfortable in the office whatever your personal circumstances.

Femalemachinest · 13/12/2025 14:05

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Unfortunately its because of your generation that women feel like the should put up with unwanted attention. That's what's unbelievable.

looselegs · 13/12/2025 14:07

And this guy works in a school around young girls.......

GreenCandleWax · 13/12/2025 14:09

MumoftwoNC · 13/12/2025 11:03

Other good comments:
In response to a question about your holiday: "that's private".
"Please don't speak to me about my appearance, it makes me uncomfortable"

Respond in the moment as much as you can. Try and do this in front of other people.

You can also keep a diary of his comments with date and time.

Agree with this except to say that his comments make you uncomfortable. I would replace that with "its not appropriate" plus "and I'd prefer you not to do it". That would send a clearer message that he could get into trouble, without you having to reveal your personal feelings to him. Why do men cause so much angst for women in the workplace?💐

ChavsAreReal · 13/12/2025 14:13

Grammarninja · 13/12/2025 13:55

This could just as easily be a thread named, "Does he fancy me?" The difference here is that you're not hoping that he does. He doesn't know this unless you make it very clear. His behaviour wouldn't be seen as inappropriate if he was someone you were interested in romantically. He's hoping that might be the case.
I wouldn't be reporting him until I had told him that I wasn't at all interested in him that way. If the behaviours persist after that, then report him.

How could this be a 'does he fancy me'? thread? She's turned down 3 dates.

Nevertheless, he's continuing this pattern of unwanted attention. How much clearer does she need to be?